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Replacing a mogrt overwrites my text

Enthusiast ,
Aug 30, 2023 Aug 30, 2023

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I have a PPro project for a series of drinks which uses one mogrt (a simple text-fade-on animation I created in AE). I have around 10 sequences in the PPro project, and each one uses the mogrt twice. It's one line of text. In AE, the line of text reads "Discover Scotch Whisky Online & In Store". In PPro, I have edited this line of text to reflect each sequence's subject, eg. "Discover Rum Online & In Store", etc.

 

If I then delete the mogrt from my library (in the Essential Graphics panel in PPro), then modify the comp in AE and re-export it, then alt-drag the mogrt into one of my PPro sequences to update the mogrt, I'm then asked, as usual, if I want to update all the mogrts in the project. Yes, I do. But wait! Where have all my text edits gone?! Every one of my PPro sequences now says "Discover Scotch Whisky Online & In Store", overwriting any edits I've made. Ugh. I've not seen this behaviour before. PPro usually happily retains all the text edits I've made.

 

I tried to attach the mogrt here, but this forum won't allow me to upload anything with a .mogrt file extension.

 

I'm on:

PPro 23.6.0 Build 65

AE 23.6.0 Build 62

(the latest updated release versions).

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Adobe Employee , Sep 01, 2023 Sep 01, 2023

It looks like that second step is the smoking gun! As soon as you Duplicate the Primary Comp, it gets assigned its own Unique ID, so then it's seen as an unrelated item once you Alt-Replace in Premiere. 

Just make sure you work from the same Primary Comp, and your edited values in Mogrt v1 will be respected after alt-replacing with Mogrt v2 🙂 

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Adobe Employee , Aug 30, 2023 Aug 30, 2023

Hi @hellopaul4

 

That's no good! I've tried to reproduce the issue on my end and my text edits are all preserved after I alt-replace so I'm wondering if it's possible that you did any of the following things before exporting the 2nd version.

 

 

The only way the text in Mogrt v1 should be overwritten is if:

 

  • the text control was removed from the EGP in AE in the edited Mogrt v2 before re-export
  • or if the Primary Comp was duplicated and the Mogrt was re-exported from this duplicated Primary c
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Adobe Employee ,
Aug 30, 2023 Aug 30, 2023

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Hi @hellopaul4

 

That's no good! I've tried to reproduce the issue on my end and my text edits are all preserved after I alt-replace so I'm wondering if it's possible that you did any of the following things before exporting the 2nd version.

 

 

The only way the text in Mogrt v1 should be overwritten is if:

 

  • the text control was removed from the EGP in AE in the edited Mogrt v2 before re-export
  • or if the Primary Comp was duplicated and the Mogrt was re-exported from this duplicated Primary comp instead. 

 

The controls and the Primary Comp have a unique ID. The way we are able to preserve existing edits on Mogrt v1 when it is alt-replaced by Mogrt v2 is if those controls unique IDs are the same. 

 

Would you be able to send me both Mogrts though so I can dig into them? You can DM me if it is work that cannot be shared. 

 

Thanks,

 

- Dacia Saenz, AE Engineering Team

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 31, 2023 Aug 31, 2023

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Aha! That could be it - the Primary Comp thing. My workflow, after I decided I wanted to change the mogrt, was:

  1. In PPro's Essential Graphics panel, delete the mogrt "Discover Caption".
  2. In AE, select the Primary Comp ("Discover Caption") and duplicate it (so I've still got the original version if the client wants to revert back to that) to create "Discover Cation 2".
  3. Change the animation of the text effects in the comp Discover Caption 2.
  4. In AE's Essential Graphics panel, set the Primary Comp to "Discover Caption 2".
  5. Export the mogrt, overwriting the previous .mogrt file.
  6. Drag the new mogrt file into PPro's Essential Graphics panel.
  7. alt-drag this new mogrt onto one of the mogrts in the timeline, say "yes" to replace all.
  8. Previous text edits get ignored.

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It looks like that second step is the smoking gun! As soon as you Duplicate the Primary Comp, it gets assigned its own Unique ID, so then it's seen as an unrelated item once you Alt-Replace in Premiere. 

Just make sure you work from the same Primary Comp, and your edited values in Mogrt v1 will be respected after alt-replacing with Mogrt v2 🙂 

- Dacia Saenz, AE Engineering Team

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