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TataTymona
Participant
April 3, 2018
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AE 15.0.1 broken Quicktime support?

  • April 3, 2018
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Hey...

Codecs list ?!!!! 15.0.0 vs 15.0.1 - both platforms (win/mac).

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    Correct answer Andrew Yoole

    Assuming you are referring to today's release of 15.1 (not 15.0.1) then you are correct.  Adobe have dropped support for a large number of Quicktime 7 legacy codecs. 

    You can read more here:

    Dropped support for Quicktime 7 era formats and codecs

    5 replies

    blinkytwo
    Participant
    July 11, 2018

    This is total bullshit from Apple and Adobe. I guess Apple is now a Phone only company. They have pretty much given up on making computers.

    H264 is the most useful of all the codec. WTF!!!?!?!??!

    Community Expert
    July 12, 2018

    H.264 is not the worst possible production codec, but it is close to the worst. H.264 support in Quicktime was dropped by Apple because an MP4 container is a better option, it never worked as well as it should in a QT container, and Apple discontinued development. It was actually a good business decision. H.264 in an MP4 is probably the most universally used format for distribution and it is probably the most cross-platform and device format we have now. The problem with rendering h.264 with the Output Module in AE is that the AE rendering pipeline processes one frame at a time because that's the most efficient way to process frame based production formats. You cannot and never have been able to do multi-pass rendering with the Output Module (via the render cue). That's why Adobe introduced the Adobe Media Encoder. Dedicated software designed to render compressed output for distribution. It's all a matter of using the right tools.

    donbarrum
    Inspiring
    July 12, 2018

    I agree, but some times you work with programs or clients that doesn't agree with that. F.example I do a lot of stage set animations in after effects, were the client uses Mac Pros and Qlab for the simpler shows. For some strange reason Qlab doesn't like the mp4 container and you often get stutter and playback problems if the format isn't h.264 .mov. Of course Qlab is a limited program and they should not have these problems, but when you are not able to render .mov H.264 movies in After Effects or AME at all, it does create quite a bit of problems. And this is just one of the cases that I personally encounter, I'm sure others have experienced different problems. So its not a question of what you should or should not do, its what you have to do to please clients. And, a software package like Adobe should not be the FIRST to completely remove the ability - because their tools are used in a TON of different types of productions.

    donbarrum
    Inspiring
    April 4, 2018

    For real?!?!?!?!? I noticed the same problem. Why ditch all kinds of codecs that people have used for years? I understand you dont want to let people render this, but to actually remove the ability to import a file of which you have a codec installed on your system is just unheard of.  I have a full library of files that I use on a regular basis and now I cannot import them anymore. Thank you Adobe, once again AE it more broken on every release. This should be written in BIG RED LETTERS on the update.

    Participant
    April 4, 2018

    Absolutely RIDICULOUS!

    Andrew Yoole
    Inspiring
    April 3, 2018

    Participant
    April 4, 2018

    Any specific reason for dropping the H.264 codecs? Myself and others at my studio are a little confused by the change and it appears to be a little hostile to the casual AE user base. We use Media Encoder often in our pipeline, but feel stripping the ability to export in these codecs straight from AE are a little excessive and adds another step to our review process, which to work properly needs an H.264.

    Legend
    April 3, 2018

    Yes, something is very borked. See https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2473561

    Andrew Yoole
    Andrew YooleCorrect answer
    Inspiring
    April 3, 2018

    Assuming you are referring to today's release of 15.1 (not 15.0.1) then you are correct.  Adobe have dropped support for a large number of Quicktime 7 legacy codecs. 

    You can read more here:

    Dropped support for Quicktime 7 era formats and codecs

    TataTymona
    Participant
    April 3, 2018

    WHAAAAT?!!!!

    !!!