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March 13, 2019
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AIR33 Where is it?

  • March 13, 2019
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Is it me or AIR33 Beta is delayed? We are a few days before April and there is no beta version yet. It looks like the 1st quarter release is missed.

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Correct answer Leo Kanel

The announcement has been made. Harman - Adobe Partnership - HARMAN

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New Participant
June 3, 2019

I really appreciated the cooperation of Adobe and Harman and I'm really looking forward to it and also seeing AIR maintained well in the future!

+ 1 Vote for Webkit Update

Inspiring
June 3, 2019

I'm not desperate for updates, because my use case is Desktop (I was forced to go away on Mobile for the obvious reasons) however would be nice the have the following on Desktop version:

Updates:

* Webkit Update (I should be able to open google maps on Windows and macOS without ANE's)

* SQLite Update (It is super outdated and you will get new features, bug fixes and performance improvements with a single external dependency updated)

New targets:

* Add Linux support again, updated and with Captiva Runtime

New features:

* PDF render/viewer

Inspiring
June 3, 2019

I just released a windows project where using StageWebView pdf can be rendered without a problem. Maybe I still have to hit on the limitations?

Cheers

Known Participant
May 31, 2019

This is cool I suppose.  Too late for any normal sized project.  I'm sure many devs and their companies work faster than me, but most business averse to extreme risk and faith in a company that doesn't communicate have moved on.  Plus, exactly how do you get a version that works for 64bit?  I filled in the form on HARMAN's website--I guess I just have to have faith they'll follow up?  Has anyone heard back from them and gotten binaries to download or is this going to materialize July 31st? 

Flipline
Inspiring
May 31, 2019

They did a mass email early this morning to everyone that had contacted them by that point with more information about timeframe, you can read the contents here:

https://forum.starling-framework.org/d/21728-the-future-of-adobe-air/15

federicor30206780
Participating Frequently
May 31, 2019

And a last and very important point :

The people that are still here is because they really believes in AIR ( as a technology ) and I'm sure all of us want to participate / collaborate / help in all this transition and new AIR future. This community is actually not very big but very loyal and compromised, and the most important, experienced and that's very valuable for the platform.

Use the community as a solid base to grow. Take care of them and the'll respond. Ask them and let them help all that they can.

But keep the word "Adobe" as far as you can, we know that perhaps contractually has to be there, but better in the "legal terms" rather than beside AIR logo. They have made "enough" .

Inspiring
May 31, 2019

I read somewhere that they will keep the word "Adobe" but on contrary, I would change the all name and logo "if that would be possible".

AIR is related with Adobe and Flash and there is a huge negativity around it (I don't need to describe why, we all know very well the reasons).

Inspiring
May 31, 2019

"AIR is related with Adobe and Flash and there is a huge negativity around it (I don't need to describe why, we all know very well the reasons)."

I call it the "F" word never to be mentioned...

Inspiring
May 31, 2019

Now the fanboys are silent (no surprise) when defends that Adobe at all cost.

For me AIR was in maintenance mode at least the last 2 years:

1. 0 innovation.

2. We had almost to beg like a dog to get Windows 64 bits.

3. Critical issues delayed to the very last moment (Android 64 bits was the icing on top of the cake and motivate me to go away on AIR for Mobile - I didn't start iet but I will, even with the news).

4. Ridiculous excuses from fanboys about that they are not obligated and there is no need a beta version for testing and bla, bla, bla

5. And for last but not least, 0 support on the official adobe air forum.

New name for the last official AIR 32 - Abandon Integrated Runtime

This news where the best we got on the past last years, about AIR.

No ones knows what will happen but at least there is hope.

Having hope means that AIR community suffered for too much time.

Now funboys can say that I need a doctor (I don't care )

Leo KanelAuthor
Inspiring
May 31, 2019

Lol, don't let them get on your head. I had been in discussions both with Adobe and Harman before the announcements. The fact that they were told to be silent until everything was in place, followed by the continuation of AIR32 as is up to 2020 (there had to be a 2020 in there...) proves a lot of things.

The good thing is that at least Harman looks hyped to work on this, and maybe with the paid plan, they can now afford to add some new features and give good support. Unfortunately I believe that this came too late, as I know a loot of devs who jumped ship to other frameworks (me included), but at least we get to keep some legacy apps.

Inspiring
May 31, 2019

Never say never I say Maybe one day, AIR will be again a very competitive tech but after being spoiled with the new solutions, I find it hard, at least for the imminent future, to get my team back to it. However with the new announcement, I will keep maintenance to a lot of older apps we have, on my own


It's gonna be a challenge for sure. It's not really about bringing back developers to the tech but more about bringing new developers to the tech. The old non evolving AS3 is not helping in comparison to those modern and always evolving languages that are everywhere nowadays. Nothing really wrong with AS3 but nothing really exciting about it either. AS3 is gonna make the success of this more difficult and challenging. If only we had ASNext ....

Inspiring
May 30, 2019

I will manage my expectations until see where this will take as.

This can turn into something bad or into something great.

Any way, now AIR have a chance of a future, so this is great news and a surprise.

Developers demanded for a way to pay to have appropriated support, bug fixs and if possible new features, performance improvements when possible and more ways to target AIR (Linux for example that we had in the past).

So. let's see how much most people really wanted to happen and also a reasonable price is key for the success.

Who said, that is normal to provide a software and not to response to his community on a official forum or provide support for Linux for dubious reasons, may see now a new reality (at least that's my felling with the announcement because it's the normal way in the software world).

Inspiring
May 30, 2019

Hope that with samsung behind we will have a better android experience on AIR.

Perf and stability wise it was a bit weak on android.

Known Participant
May 30, 2019

I am really hopeful about this. I am certainly willing to pay to support Air development.

ajwfrost75
Participating Frequently
May 30, 2019

Thanks for all the interest and questions! We'll be providing more details before too long and will take these on board. And yes, happily there's a lot of traffic hitting our website and email address, which is nice .. but am off out now for the evening so will have to leave things unattended for a bit!

Frédéric C.
Inspiring
May 30, 2019

I think we may want to create another thread about the promising future of Adobe Air. This one is full of useless negativity and obsolete remarks.

ajwfrost75
Participating Frequently
May 30, 2019

We'll hopefully be able to provide more details before too long, but yes, we're looking forward to supporting AIR; Adobe's blog post hopefully explains it, and we'll get an updated website with FAQ up and running shortly. The plan is for AIR SDK to be free to download and use for hobbyists/smaller developers i.e. having a 'free tier', and then charging for larger/commercial use. The charges are then used to fund our development team and so the more people who use it, the more we can develop it! We're aiming to keep charges to low/reasonable levels though, so as not to impact folk too much (i.e. small fees but from lots of companies).

HARMAN (or the part of it within which I work) has been in partnership with Adobe since 2006 working on integration/support of Flash runtimes for mobile/embedded platforms, so we've got a lot of experience - Adobe wouldn't have done this otherwise!

And yes, ANEs need to be updated, we've already internally updated and checked the ADT tools to ensure this works, it should be fairly seamless I hope. We'll be providing a beta release to Distriqt, MyFlashLabs and others as soon as the updated SDK license agreement has passed our legal and financial review process.

This has been a long time in coming but we're excited to see how this works out!

thanks

  Andrew

AlexUrrutia
Inspiring
May 30, 2019

ajwfrost75​ Andrew, so the AIR SDK development would be more active?  more time dedicated to AIR SDK? as Adobe AIR team hasn't been that active lately.

ajwfrost75
Participating Frequently
May 30, 2019

That's the plan! It obviously needs to be commercially viable for us but we believe it will be, by requesting small fees from a high volume of developers...