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hamzamisterconductor
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January 23, 2020
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Adobe Audition mix, sounds completely unmixed!

  • January 23, 2020
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Hello community, 

 

So here is a strange problem I have run into with Audition and I fail to understand... I've been using Audition for the last 4 years, excellent workflow.. Then just as I updated to the 2020 version really weird stuff happened. 
1- The samller problem. When I save my session (working on a video) the video playback goes black, the track is there but I have to Link it again. Happens randomly ...
2- The really NOT COOL problem: 
I use the same plugins, same settings, same audio interface... all same I used with the 2019 version. I mix my tracks, mainly music, sfx, dialogue, then bounce all. 
Surprise, the mixdown sounds COMPLETELY different, dull as if run through LPF, gain reduced (not the -3 db one), mids up, and not at all what it sounds in Audition. So, at the same time, if I play it in Audition, the mix is fine, then I play the exported file: the mix is messed up.
I imported the SAME mixdown tracks to Audition many times to test and well, they even look different, and sound bad. No plugins involved , not even the native Adobe ones. 

I tried this without any plugins, absolutely none and I get the same result. 

I suspected the MAC first, then I have LPX and ProTools 2019 in the same machine and they work fine. I even loaded the same OMF into each and still Audition is the only DAW that seems to get things done awefully in the mix. I used the same plugins in all 3.  

Anyone with similar problems? your help is so much appreciated. 

Thanks

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chuckhawks
chuckhawks
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March 18, 2020

I am running a Mac with Catalina and on the 2020 version of Audition. I have similar but perhaps not exactly the same issue. When I mix clips to a file, the dialogue clip (podcast) is WAY lower - like 6 to 8dB lower than when in the Multitrack view. The surrounding music and open/close dialogue clips are unaffected but the main interview clip (using a mild DeReverb plugin only, nothing else) is not at all what was mixed down.

This is extremely frustrating (and unpredictable as sometimes it doesn't do it - same effects applied, etc.) and seriously has me questioning the integrity of Audition mixes. Am I going to have to worry about this in a music production or something more complicated than a 4-track podcast?? I can't afford to waste time putzing with an inaccurate DAW.

I've found no solutions anywhere for this situation (Pan Laws are not the issue and did nothing when I switched it from -3dB and restarted the app) and I'm going out of my mind trying to work with this issue.

SteveG_AudioMasters_
Community Expert
SteveG_AudioMasters_Community Expert
Community Expert
March 18, 2020

There's no evidence at all to suggest that Audition does anything to mixes other than what you tell it to. If this wasn't the case, there would be massive levels of complaint about it, and we'd have heard about it from loads of people. If you really have got a case of this happening, it would have to be reproducible before anybody would look at it. We'd need a sample of the audio concerned, and the session file, at a bare minimum. This would go for both of you - these being the only instances that have been reported here.

chuckhawks
chuckhawks
Known Participant
March 18, 2020

There have been far more than just our two incidences posted here and elsewhere. The only solution that is offered is the Pan Law 'fix' - which isn't the cause of my issue anyway. Doing various searches for strings like 'audition CC mixdown volume reduced/inconsistant/changed/etc.' returns a lot of results that appear to be the same issue - mixdown is "selectively" reducing gain structure on tracks/clips.

I may end up posting the .sesx and clips to see if anyone can shed a light on any settings that I have set incorrectly or other user-sourced causes of the issue. But honestly, I'm not seeing it.

 

As a slight aside, Adobe tech support is utterly useless. After being shuffled around and on the phone for an hour +, the tech finally told me that he's not an expert in Audition (or any media app {seriously?! and neither is anyone in his department - but he'd keep my case open and do some searches of his own and get back with me if he finds anything. I don't expect to ever hear from Anurag. I asked about a level-2 support; he laughed and said they don't really have one and anyone in as close as he could get me to L2 would be just as ignorant about mixdowns and actually USING the product. Wow.

His only other suggestion was to reinstall the 2019 version of Audition (12.x) and see if the issue shows up there - which I don't remember ever having this issue in 12.x, so there may be merrit in that as a work-around. Jeez... Or I'll just abandon Adobe and go back o ProTools, which I really do not want to do, especially for a simple multi-podcast project...

I used to think Avid support was great in the mid-to-late '90s and then it totally sucked thereafter. This is far worse than Avid's support has ever been... They are great by comparison to Adobe. Oy vey!

    SteveG_AudioMasters_
    Community Expert
    SteveG_AudioMasters_Community Expert
    Community Expert
    January 23, 2020

    Well, it's a Mac, so I'm groping in the dark a bit here... but are you using Catalina? We know that there are some security-related issues surrounding that, and moving files in and out of Audition. These are currently being worked on.

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    hamzamisterconductor작성자
    Participant
    February 2, 2020

    Thank you Steve, that was a fast answer, and sorry I just posted it before going in a weel vacation .... 
    Well, no I am still on Mojave 10.14.5, 

    My personal computer has the Catalina and strangely Audition works fine there. I do not use it often though. 
    One thing popped to my mind is: 
    This sound confusion happened first after I installed VLC player, could that be the reason somehow? 





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