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unauthorizedrob
Inspiring
August 18, 2018
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Backing up Multitrack Sessions: Do I have to save "other media files" each time?

  • August 18, 2018
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I am recording an audiobook, and following the advice to "save, save, save," I am backing up my projects in three places, including a removable hard disk, Creative Cloud, and iCloud.  The program lets me browse for the save location, confirms the choice, and then -- before saving -- asks "One or more media files used by this Multitrack Session are located outside of the Session folder.  Would you like to copy these files to the Session folder?"  Being over-cautious, I have been saying yes.... and I am beginning to suspect that is a mistake, over overkill.

The save is taking longer and longer, and the program gets stuck on 99%, so I have to force quit.  I notice each time the Files folder is getting bigger and bigger, with a lot of .wav files showing up as multiple copies of themselves in each sessions "imported files" folder (e.g. "characterC-sample Copy(8) Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy.wav").

Can I just say "no" when it asks "One or more media files used by this Multitrack Session are located outside of the Session folder.  Would you like to copy these files to the Session folder?"

Thanks!

Hardware/software notes below.

Rob Wilson

UnAuthorized Films

Audio Editing hardware/Software

Hardware Overview:

  Model Name: iMac

  Model Identifier: iMac14,4

  Processor Name: Intel Core i5

  Processor Speed: 1.4 GHz

  Number of Processors: 1

  Total Number of Cores: 2

  L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB

  L3 Cache: 3 MB

  Memory: 8 GB

  Boot ROM Version: IM144.0189.B00

  SMC Version (system): 2.21f92

  Serial Number (system): C02PC3LJFY0T

  Hardware UUID: C20D7D89-56EB-59A6-B813-49158E1B037C

Intel 8 Series Chipset:

  Vendor: Intel

  Product: 8 Series Chipset

  Link Speed: 6 Gigabit

  Negotiated Link Speed: 3 Gigabit

  Physical Interconnect: SATA

  Description: AHCI Version 1.30 Supported

APPLE HDD HTS545050A7E362:

  Capacity: 500.11 GB (500,107,862,016 bytes)

  Model: APPLE HDD HTS545050A7E362              

  Revision: GG2AB990

  Serial Number: TNS5193T3DS07H

  Native Command Queuing: Yes

  Queue Depth: 32

  Removable Media: No

  Detachable Drive: No

  BSD Name: disk0

  Rotational Rate: 5400

  Medium Type: Rotational

  Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)

  S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified

  Volumes:

EFI:

  Capacity: 209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)

  File System: MS-DOS FAT32

  BSD Name: disk0s1

  Content: EFI

  Volume UUID: BDC1974F-6B8C-3DAE-9DB2-3AA3C17BF506

UFI Hard Drive:

  Capacity: 499.25 GB (499,248,103,424 bytes)

  Available: 310.83 GB (310,831,108,096 bytes)

  Writable: Yes

  File System: Journaled HFS+

  BSD Name: disk0s2

  Mount Point: /

  Content: Apple_HFS

  Volume UUID: 84B395ED-6163-3197-9342-8B81428ADECE

Recovery HD:

  Capacity: 650 MB (650,002,432 bytes)

  File System: Journaled HFS+

  BSD Name: disk0s3

  Content: Apple_Boot

  Volume UUID: 0FDC8C26-109B-3A85-9B0E-973BA7F4EF3C

Storage:

UF-MEDIA-006:

  Available: 1.96 TB (1,962,052,780,032 bytes)

  Capacity: 2 TB (2,000,398,929,920 bytes)

  Mount Point: /Volumes/UF-MEDIA-006

  File System: Journaled HFS+

  Writable: Yes

  Ignore Ownership: Yes

  BSD Name: disk1s1

  Volume UUID: 4FCEC94C-A258-35D5-9384-9FDA0ABE3D2E

  Physical Drive:

  Device Name: P9227 Slim

  Media Name: LaCie P9227 Slim Media

  Protocol: USB

  Internal: No

  Partition Map Type: MBR (Master Boot Record)

PreSonus AudioBox USB 96 Audio InterfaceTech Specs

Computer Connectivity:

USB

Form Factor:

Portable, Desktop

Simultaneous I/O:

2 x 2

Number of Preamps:

2

Phantom Power:

Yes

A/D Resolution:

24-bit/96kHz

Built In DSP/FX:

20 Native effect plug-ins

Analog Inputs:

2 x XLR-1/4" combo (mic/instrument)

Analog Outputs:

2 x 1/4" (main out)

Headphones:

1 x 1/4"

MIDI I/O:

In/Out

USB:

1 x Type B

Software:

Studio One 4 Artist DAW included

OS Requirements - Mac:

OS X 10.8.5 or later, Intel Core i3 or higher, 4GB RAM or more recommended

OS Requirements - PC:

Windows 7 SP1 64-bit or later, Intel Core i3 or higher, 8GB RAM or more recommended

Bus Powered:

Yes

Depth:

1.75"

Width:

5.5"

Height:

5.5"

Weight:

5 lbs.

Manufacturer Part Number:

AUDIOBOX USB 96

Installed Audio Software:

Pro Tools First:

  Version: 18.7.0.201

  Obtained from: Identified Developer

  Last Modified: 8/3/18, 6:40 PM

  Kind: Intel

  64-Bit (Intel): Yes

  Signed by: Developer ID Application: Avid Technology Inc (4UYUA773XD), Developer ID Certification Authority, Apple Root CA

  Location: /Applications/Pro Tools First.app

  Get Info String: 18.7.0.201, Copyright 1991-2018 Avid Technology, Inc.

Creative Cloud Desktop App:

  Version: 4.6.0.384

  Obtained from: Identified Developer

  Last Modified: 8/3/18, 10:04 PM

  Kind: Intel

  64-Bit (Intel): Yes

  Signed by: Developer ID Application: Adobe Systems, Inc. (JQ525L2MZD), Developer ID Certification Authority, Apple Root CA

  Location: /Applications/Utilities/Adobe Creative Cloud/Utils/Creative Cloud Desktop App.app

Adobe Creative Suite.

Adobe Audition. Build 11.10.0.184

  Punch And RollVersion 1.22.3.    

Adobe Acrobat Pro

Architecture: x86_64

Build: 18.11.20055.290043

AGM: 4.30.78

CoolType: 5.14.5

JP2K: 1.2.2.41223

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Correct answer SteveG_AudioMasters_

No you don't have to. It's useful if you are sending an entire session to somebody else, but no, you don't have to do it as long as the files are backed up somewhere. It can sometimes be an issue if you store the only copies of session files on a portable drive that you forget to plug in before opening the session; it will promptly mark all of the files as off-line, and then make you relink them all. But as long as you remember that this can happen, it's generally not a problem.

ProTools? Oh dear...

2 replies

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TaraJeanStevens
Participant
April 24, 2020

Sweet Jesus of Adobe Audition support! Finally, I found someone who has put to words what I have as well done. How do I clean up this mess? Is there a way to tell what I can and shouldn't delete? My hard drive storage is now full. And just to be clear, I can now start saying no when I'm leaving a session and it says "One or more media files used by this Multitrack Session are located outside of the Session folder.  Would you like to copy these files to the Session folder?"? Thanks! I think I understand this process a whole lot more just from reading this. Phew!

SteveG_AudioMasters_
Community Expert
SteveG_AudioMasters_Community Expert
Community Expert
April 25, 2020

See reply on the other thread you started - doesn't need two threads! This is nearly as bad as what's happened on your computer! 😉

    SteveG_AudioMasters_
    Community Expert
    SteveG_AudioMasters_Community ExpertCorrect answer
    Community Expert
    August 19, 2018

    No you don't have to. It's useful if you are sending an entire session to somebody else, but no, you don't have to do it as long as the files are backed up somewhere. It can sometimes be an issue if you store the only copies of session files on a portable drive that you forget to plug in before opening the session; it will promptly mark all of the files as off-line, and then make you relink them all. But as long as you remember that this can happen, it's generally not a problem.

    ProTools? Oh dear...

    unauthorizedrob
    unauthorizedrobAuthor
    Inspiring
    August 19, 2018

    Thanks.  I will not hereafter.  I presume the session files will all then refer to the media files on the original external drive?

    Yeah, ProTools First, the free versión.  Tried it out. Did not load, and was generally a tease to buy the Big Daddy.

    SteveG_AudioMasters_
    Community Expert
    SteveG_AudioMasters_Community Expert
    Community Expert
    August 19, 2018

    unauthorizedrob  wrote

    Thanks.  I will not hereafter.  I presume the session files will all then refer to the media files on the original external drive?

    They should. The system is in theory capable of coping with both relative and absolute file addresses, so as long as the drive is connected as it was when you created the session, it should find the files.

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