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December 9, 2022
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Ventura has made Bridge largely unusable

  • December 9, 2022
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I understand there is a deluge of people reporting this problem, which is really part of a larger problem with the Ventura update.  Apple wants to further reduce support for NTFS-based architecture, and so virtually everyone using an external drive which comes with an NTFS-for-MAC program has had their workflow very brutally interrupted.  This will of course include virtually all photographers, whose massive archives will typically not fit on their Mac hard drive.

My previous NTFS-for-mac softeware became completely nonfunctional upon upgrading the OS, and I was no longer able to write to external drives, leading to a collapse of my itunes, my ability to torrent, and a realy appalling slowness in even reading data on externals. 

I've since been forced to purchase a new NTFS-for-Mac program (I'm currently using Tuxera), which somewhat addresses the issue, but my computers ability to read the data on externals is radically slower.  Using Bridge to open a folder of images from only one single shoot can take 3-5 minutes or more to load.  Simply directing bridge to my photo drive leads to a lag of 10-15 minutes before it even shows me the folder structure of the drive.

Obviosuly this is completely unacceptable.  I called Mac tech support and they advise me that I've done all that can be done, and that as this is part of a larger corporate decision everything is working as intended.  He suggested replacing my 5 10TB external drives with new external drives formatted solely for mac, which would cost more than a brand new imac.  I'm not even sure if this will restore Bridge functionality.

Has anyone found any workarounds or has Ventura simply killed Bridge forever?  

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Legend
December 9, 2022

Apple has never supported NTFS and recommends against using it. Format your drives as APFS, HFS Extended, or if necessary, exFAT.

And if you want to gripe, Microsoft doesn't support ANY Mac formatted drives where macOS can read and write FAT32, exFAT, and read NTFS.

You can reformat drives for free using Disk Utility which Apple conveniently includes with every computer.

Known Participant
December 9, 2022

This is not simply petty "griping" and "Microsoft is worse" is not an appropriate reponse.  Apple very cavalierly destroyed my ability to work in the manner I have been working for a decade without really giving me any heads up at all.  The NTSF format has been functional on macs with a huge array of NTFS-for-mac programs, which are basically omnipresent and come bundled with all major externals.  If they wanted to radically restrict ability to use the vast majority of external drives overnight, they should have prominently featured a very big warning about this with the OS update information, and Adobe should have messaged all of its Bridge and lightroom subscribers to warn them about the danger of installing an OS which would abruptly end their normal ability to work.

Legend
December 9, 2022

No, this is not correct. While third-party addon programs have been available for years, Apple has not changed its support for NTFS. They are not omnipresent and complaining because an unsupported workflow breaks because utility software isn't compatible doesn't make this Apple's or Adobe's problem.

Adobe has been upfront about issues with Ventura. This is not "normal" and no, nobody should message all customers about something that has never been supported.