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P: Camera Raw/Lightroom: Dehaze altering the color-balance/white-balance of photos

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January 28, 2020
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As much as I love the Dehaze slider, there is one thing about it that I absolutely HATE and that is when it decides to go psycho in altering the color-balance/white-balance of photos.

These example photos may not show up (I've had issues with photos disappearing from being uploaded), but here is one pair from earlier today... the tint setting on WB is just 50k apart, one click on the arrow key.. but the difference is HUGE.

All settings are identical between the 2 photos, the only change was hovering the mouse over the WB tint slider and pressing the up/down key once.. changing from 5850k to 5800k

I often get similar shifts going from consecutive, continuous-high photos from frame to frame with the exact same settings, no changes in wb settings, and it all seems related to the dehaze slider and the way it analyzes the photos.

Years ago, I thought I actually had a defective camera, as the photos would change biggly even using the same exact settings 0.1sec apart. Eventually, I tracked down the cause. The programming of the Dehaze feature.

So, the problem I wish they could figure out is some way to get Dehaze to not do massive shifts in WB

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Earth Oliver

Legend

so now we're at the two year anniversary of this bug being acknowledged and we're still waiting for a fix. At least now we know that the bug is being provoked by the Adobe profiles. So frustrating that these bugs are allowed to persist for years and the users who generally suffer from them are the ones who depend on the software for getting their work done.

Bob Somrak

Legend

Unfortunately this is still an issue in LrC11.1. Any updates from the team @Rikk Flohr: Photography

M4 Pro Mac Mini. 48GB

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Anonymous

looks like the adobe color profiles are to blame here! see this https://youtu.be/xb6UZsUEpSI?t=782

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Anonymous

+25 dehaze:
as soon as color temp goes from 5200 to 5250 the whole image shifts.
took hours to figure out where this comes from in my timelapse sequence.

Lightroom v10.1

camera raw v13.1

sony a7III .ARW.

Frank DeBonis

Inspiring

The dehaze slider used within one of my images introduces an orange cast instead of white when adding haze. When dehaze is used within an adjustment brush or radial/graduated, it takes on the color of the hue slider.

AxelMatt

Community Expert

The first thing that you should try is to switch off the GPU support from the Lightroom preferences and check if that helps to fix the issue.

Go to Lightroom > Preferences > Performance tab > Uncheck "Use Graphics Processor" > Restart Lightroom.

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/lightroom-gpu-faq.html#troubleshooting

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/troubleshoot-gpu.html

Another step is to try to reset the Lightroom preferences.

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/

If this doesn't help we need more informations about your environment.

Which operating system do you use?

Please post the exact version and not only phrases as "recent", "latest" and so on.

Please post an screenshot that shows the issue.

My System: Intel i7-8700K - 64GB RAM - NVidia Geforce RTX 3060 - Windows 11 Pro 25H2 -- LR-Classic 15 - Photoshop 27 - Nik Collection 8 - PureRAW 5 - Topaz Photo

Frank DeBonis

Inspiring

I disabled the graphics processor and restarted LrC. Issue persists. I reset the preferences. Issue persists. I'm using Windows 10 Pro 10.0.18363 Build 18363.

Michael J. Hoffman

Community Expert

In experimenting a little more, setting Dehaze to -100 makes one image have a strong greenish cast, and pushing to +1-- gives it a strong magenta cast. The other image, -11 gives a strong pink/orange cast, while pushing to +100 gives a strong cyan cast. Other images from the very same shoot don't behave this way.

Earth Oliver

Legend

i was just now dealing with this issue too. I have an image which needs about +55 dehaze and as soon as my WB goes over 5500K, the image gets blasted by yellow.

Michael J. Hoffman

Community Expert

I noticed a similar problem to Mark Robinson above:

I have two photos, taken just a couple of minutes apart, and from the same location. When I add a Dehaze adjustment in the Develop Module, the images behave in wildly different ways. The only significant difference between the two images is the illuminated sign post, which was cycling through different colors as shown below. Could the color in the sign post be creating the wildly different Dehaze behaviors here?

In the first snapshot, you can see the two photos as imported, with no Basic adjustments and only the camera profile, lens corrections and a small noise reduction applied. In the second snapshot, I've added Dehaze +30 to both images. One goes strongly magenta, the other strongly blue.

Any thoughts as to why this happens? I really like the magenta sky in the second image, and was trying to replicate it in the first one. Instead, it seems I stumbled into a bug.

Notes: Windows 10, LrC 9.3, Canon EOS R raw files.

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FeedbackCommunityMember

Inspiring

egos and narcissism........zzzzzzzzzzz

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FlabbyWhiteBoyNZ

Participant

I shot a series of timelapse photos - each one 8 seconds in duration with a second between them. Imported them into LrC and made some adjustments. Sync'd settings across the images and noticed that some of them look wildly different in colour to the ones that followed.

Narrowed it down to just two consecutive images - one that was ultra-blue and the following one that looked more purply (I was after a more purple look so the blue one was not expected). Adjusted one setting at a time and found the Dehaze was the culprit. A Dehaze of 88 (yeah, I know - quite high) on one image made it blue and a Dehaze on the very next image (just 1 second later) was purply. Odd.

Opened each image in PS and did a Dehaze of 88 on each in Camera Raw and was very surprised to see that they BOTH looked purply. So, from my variations of settings and applications, it appears that under SOME circumstances the Dehaze under LrC performs wildly different from that in Camera Raw in PS, and Dehaze in LrC can result in wildly varying results even for two consecutive images.

Attached image shows the Camera Raw Dehazed version of image 9204, then the LrC Dehazed version of image 9204 (note how the Camera Raw Dehaze differs from the LrC Dehaze), Camera Raw Dehazed version of image 9205, then the LrC Dehazed version of image 9205 (note how the Camera Raw Dehaze is the SAME as the LrC Dehaze).

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