P: Camera-Matching Profiles: Requests and information

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Camera-matching Profiles are applicable to Camera Raw, Lightroom Classic, and the Lightroom Ecosystem products (Desktop, Mobile, and Web).

Note: Not all cameras will receive camera-matching profiles.

This thread is a place to request missing camera-matching profiles for specific models. Please include a complete camera model designation and a list of the specific camera-matching profiles you are requesting in your request. If your camera is already listed in this thread, please reply to the specific camera’s post rather than just posting in-line.

Camera-matching profiles are provided for some camera manufacturers and models. As raw support is added for individual camera models, camera-matching profiles for some cameras may be added when raw support is initially offered.  Other cameras may see camera-matching profiles added at a later date. It is also possible that a specific camera may see a long delay or perhaps not ever receive a specific camera-matching profile.

Note:

ETAs for camera-matching profiles are not available. New feature announcements are only made after support is added.

[koehntopp]

I just imported Nikon Zf files from my new camera into Lightroom.

I can work with the images, but I can't find the matching in the Camera Raw / Camera Profilkes / Adobe Standard folder - any idea where I could find the profile?

(Not sure if there is a dedicated profile - if not, what is the one that is applied in Lightroom?)

[John R Ellis]

"I just imported Nikon Zf files from my new camera into Lightroom. I can work with the images, but I can't find the matching in the Camera Raw / Camera Profilkes / Adobe Standard folder"

The Supported Cameras list says, "Camera matching profiles for Nikon Creative Picture Controls will be available in a future release".

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html#anameNikonaNikon

[koehntopp]

I know.

My question was about the Zf specific "Nikon Zf Adobe Standard.dcp". (or, as that's not there, which .dcp profile *does* get applied when I edit images?). 

[John R Ellis]

I think the Adobe Standard profile for the Nikon Z f is stored inside the app itself. Some profiles for the Fujifilm X-T4 are also stored in the app. I don't know why.

[onyxreal2]

I purchased a new Canon R8 and shoot "cRAW" with "Standard" and sRGB profile selected in the camera menu.  When I import the picture from Lightroom Desktop on the Mac then there are no issues with a missing profile, but when I go to lightroom mobile on the iPad or iPhone, there is a red warning that the "Camera Standard" profile is missing and I need to click "Continue Editing" to use the closest profile, etc.  

Are the profiles for the new Canon R8 not yet available on Lightroom Mobile but they are on the desktop version because of the Camera Raw support being used?   

When can we expect Canon R8 to have the native camera profiles on Lightroom Mobile? 

Thanks,

Christian

[Sue33630809jlp4]

Hi from the UK,

Can you add the DJI Mini 3 Pro to the Camera Matching Profiles?

These are enabled for my Mavic 2 Pro, but not the Mini, which is a bit frustrating 

[Ralph33911551tutz]

Hi, I've recently upgraded to the DJI Mini 4 Pro from the Mini 2.

Having just taken the drone out for the first time I've come back to Lightroom and can't for the life of me understand where the "Profiles" have gone.

As far as I can tell, the file formats are exactly the same. Both are .dngs. But for the pictures taken on the Mini 2, the "Adobe Landscape" profile appears but for the pictures on the Mini 4 pro, it doesn't.

Does anyone have any ideas why they wouldnt show for pictures taken on the Mini 4 pro?

Lightroom v7.0 on mac

Thanks

[John R Ellis]

"As far as I can tell, the file formats are exactly the same. Both are .dngs. But for the pictures taken on the Mini 2, the "Adobe Landscape" profile appears but for the pictures on the Mini 4 pro, it doesn't."

Camera-matching profiles are specific to the camera. (Two different cameras from the same manufacturer usually share the same file format but do not record sensor data identically.) In general, Lightroom/Camera Raw don't provide camera-matching profiles for DJI cameras:

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html#DJI

[Karol33930030a327]

I'm missing like half of the film simulations for Fuji X-H2. The issue is also reported in the other forums.

[Karol33930030a327]

for older cameras (Fuji X-T4) all film simulations are there.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

@Karol33930030a327  What other forums? I have to say I am curious as I monitor several and haven't seen other requests. 

[John R Ellis]

Which film simulations are you missing? I downloaded a sample X-H2 raw from dpreview.com, and it shows 19 camera-matching profiles in LR 13.0.2:

That includes all 13 film simulations listed in the X-H2 manual.

If you're not seeing all these, please post a similar full-resolution screenshot (not a phone pic) showing the Loupe Info display in the upper-left corner including the file name and camera model and the list of Camera Matching profiles in the profile browser on the right.

Also, do the menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire output here.

[Carlos Juan344649167brm]

Since the last Google Camera update for my Pixel 7 only the raw photos taken with the selfie camera can use Adobe raw profiles. I like a lot the look that they give the photos and I want to be able to use them again

[John R Ellis]

@Carlos Juan344649167brm, I believe this is a bug with Camera Raw / Lightroom and Pixel 7 back-camera raws. Please add details of your issue to this existing report:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/imported-dng-files-from-a-google-pixel-...

@Rikk Flohr: Photography, please consider filing that report as a bug -- the bug recipe is here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/imported-dng-files-from-a-google-pixel-... 

[SERGE34802440ya66]

In Lightroom/Camera Raw development you can choose from Adobe Std/Adobe Color/ Adobe whatever ... OR a specific camera by uploading the inherent camera raw profile (the ".dcp" file).

Most cameras are listed: Nikon, Canon, Fuji, Sony; but for Leica there are only 3: C-Lux, D-Lux and M8.

Would it be possible in the next Camera Raw update to include all Leica family camera profile, including the Leica Q2 that I need?

Thx

[karelf44702677]

Hello i have X100VI with latest firmvare, macbook with latest os, latest update of LR but I missing some of matching camera profiles in LR, for example I cant see classing negative but with photos from my x-t5 i see classic negative. I try reinstall LR but it not helped. Some of my friends with X100VI have same issue. 

[John R Ellis]

My LR 13.2 includes profile "Camera CLASSIC Neg" for the Fujifilm X100V but not the X100VI. You can easily modify the X100V version of the profile to work with the X100VI, though who knows whether it produces an accurate representation of the camera's built-in film simulation -- the VI's sensor and firmware may produce significantly different raws.

1. Open this file in a text editor:

/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/Settings/Adobe/Profiles/Camera/Fujifilm/Fujifilm X100V/Fujifilm X100V Camera CLASSIC Neg.xmp

(There's an analogous path on Windows.)

2. Change this line to mention the X100VI:

crs:CameraModelRestriction="Fujifilm X100VI"

3. Delete this line:

crs:UUID="62D5B88D6F9260F69B05C659089C51F2"

4. Save the edited file to your Desktop.

5. In LR, do File > Import Develop Profiles And Presets and navigate to the file you saved to your Desktop.

[terjeg70102110]

Classic Neg simulation is missing in Lightroom for camera FUJI X100VI ?

If you take photo on Fuji X100VI with this sim Lightroom say Provia.  The Classic Negative not show. 

[Emil32045256t7ow]

Fujifilm x100vi should have 20 camera profiles available in LR, but only 16 are available both in Cloud and Classic. For example Classic Negative and Nostalgic negative are missing from the latest LR versions (v7.2 and v13.2) for x100vi. See the manual for full list of camera profiles (film simulations) https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/menu_shooting/image_quality_setting/#film_simulation&gsc.t...

[JohanElzenga]

Camera profiles in Lightroom are not copies of the manufacturer profiles, but Adobe profiles designed to mimic those manufacturer profiles. That means that Adobe can decide not to provide a mimic copy of all of them for whatever reason.

[terjeg70102110]

I do hope Lr make a update soon so the Classic Neg and Classiv Nos from the new X1000VI is available. As of now its frustration for a long time Lr user to use other programs that have this profiles enabel. 

[Emil32045256t7ow]

Latest camera raw version 16.2.1 added support for the missing camera profiles: https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html

I still cannot see those camera profiles in LR on both images I imported before the update and after. How to fix?

[John R Ellis]

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@Emil32045256t7ow: In the Creative Cloud app I updated my Camera Raw to 16.2.1 and restarted LR 13.2, and LR now displays the profiles Camera CLASSIC Neg and Camera NOSTALGIC Neg profiles for the Fujifilm X100VI:

Try these steps, reporting what you see or don't see at the first step that doesn't produce the expected results:

1. In the Creative Cloud app, click on Apps, and in the Install Apps column, hover the mouse over Camera Raw and verify version 16.2.1 is installed:

2. In LR Library, select on of the X100VI .raf files, right-click it, and do Show In Finder / Explorer.

3. In Finder / Explorer, right-click the .raf file and do Open With > Adobe Photoshop 2024.

4. In Camera Raw, click on the Profile dropdown menu and navigate to the Camera Matching profiles. Do you see the missing profiles?

[Emil32045256t7ow]

Thanks for the follow up @John R Ellis! 

I see that you are using LrC, and when I checked an image in LrC I do see all the camera profiles. It seems like they are missing from LR only.  I can also see the profiles if I open an image in Camera Raw via photoshop. 

Any idea why the profiles are missing from LR still?

Cheers,

emil

[John R Ellis]

LR Classic shares profiles (.xmp files) with Camera Raw, so when you update Camera Raw, LR Classic will automatically see any new or updated profiles installed by Camera Raw.

However, LR Desktop doesn't share profiles with Camera Raw and won't see any new or updated profiles it installs. You have two options:

1. Wait until LR Desktop 7.3 is released, probably in a couple weeks.

2. In LR Desktop, do File > Import Profiles And Presets and navigate to where Camera Raw has stored the new profiles:

/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/Settings/Adobe/Profiles/Camera/Fujifilm/Fujifilm X100VI/Fujifilm X100VI Camera CLASSIC Neg.xmp

C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\Settings\Adobe\Profiles\Camera\Fujifilm\Fujifilm X100VI/Fujifilm X100VI Camera CLASSIC Neg.xmp