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P: Camera Raw Basic tab disappeared

Explorer ,
Oct 17, 2023 Oct 17, 2023

Hi there,

I'm just processing some pictures here and wondering where the 'Basic' tab has gone within Camera Raw? (usually situated at the top where the red dot in the attached picture is)

Screenshot 2023-10-17 at 10.33.41.png

It's the place where pretty much every adjustment I use on pictures is situated, including saturation, vibrance, dehaze highlights etc etc. At the moment, without the basic tab, I have to keep opening different tabe separately, which is making workflow when dealing with multiple pictures a bit of a pain.

Any ideas? Thank you. Mike Kemp

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Advisor , Oct 17, 2023 Oct 17, 2023

The functions previously found under "Basic" are now to be found under "Light", "Color" and "Effects" as shown in your screenshot. Three panels rather than one I'm afraid. 

If you use "Multiple Panel Mode" (right click on any panel and select it) you can keep the three panels open at the same time which saves a few clicks.

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Participant ,
Nov 02, 2023 Nov 02, 2023

This drives me NUTS. It's one of the reasons I hate the updated layout. They keep reinventing stuff that's been in place for years with no way to retain a legacy. This may well be worse than the Adjustments Panel fiasco in Photoshop, which they did eventually provide a Legacy view. 

It wasn't that long ago they total retooled ACR in the first place and now it's ALREADY different? I just got used this prior workflow change. 

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Contributor ,
Nov 09, 2023 Nov 09, 2023

The topic of keyboard shortcuts not working was incorrectly merged into this one (about splitting the basic panel), and is already marked as solved here. Please see my repost. Adobe answered it's not a bug but "an artifact of the panel reconfiguration" xD

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/ctrl-1-doesn-t-work-in-camera-raw-when-masking...

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 16, 2023 Oct 16, 2023

Opening three different panels to cover what was once on the same page is such a pain. Why can't multiple panels remain opened at once? I have plenty of screen space where the top three panels could always stay open.

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Advisor ,
Oct 16, 2023 Oct 16, 2023

Why can't multiple panels remain opened at once?

They can. 

Right click on any panel and select "Multiple Panel Mode"

Unfortunately they all stay open once opened until you manually close one. You can't be selective such as just having Color, Light and Effects open as some kind of default setting because if you open a fourth panel that stays open too.

If you mostly use Color, Light and Effects then leave those open and close others as necessary to tidy up.

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New Here ,
Oct 16, 2023 Oct 16, 2023

Yeah you can right click and make a few tweaks to try and improve the situation but I still don't really understand the UI changes. Was there really a need to change the order of the different "segments" of settings? White balance and Temp & Tint have been on top since the dawn of time and now they've dropped them below "Light". That's another weird bit. Why separate such an essential part of Camera Raw adjustments in three different panels?

Anyway by right clicking on one of the panels you can select to have (and keep) multiple panels open and also select which are visible. I've unchecked those I don't use all the time in the attached screenshot. You can also change the order of a selected panel with the arrow keys.

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 16, 2023 Oct 16, 2023

Immensely helpful! Thanks for the tip. Never thought to control-click on those panels. Looks like you can open as many as you want by command clicking (Mac laptop) on each one. Not sure why that feature needs to be hidden in a single panel or multiple panel mode though. 

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Contributor ,
Oct 16, 2023 Oct 16, 2023

I had Panel behavior set to Single, but had to change it to Responsive, as I now need to have more than one panel open at once. I then changed the order, so I had Color first, then Light, to replicate previous configuration. However, I realized I also needed to have Effects open, which Responsive would not allow due to space issue, so I set behavior to Multiple. I then noticed that the order had reverted to Light then Color- not sure why it did not save my modification?

 

macOS Ventura 13.6, ACR 16.0.0.1677

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 27, 2023 Oct 27, 2023

I got this problem aswell, not with the same panels as you but still you need 3 panels open for have the "basics" open and if I open more the interface get laggy.

 

This was one of the dumbest updates ever. Isn't it better to have one panel with color and subpanels instead of 3 different panels with color. Now it is so cluttred I really consider moving to another raw converter because this is almost like learning a new one.

 

Please Adobe go back to the simplicity.

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 25, 2023 Oct 25, 2023

I really do not like the new interface/panels in ACR, it slow down my workflow. I work with a lot of HDR/dng files (merged in ACR) and they are not able to open with the 14.5 version, hence I was forced to update to 16.0.

 

I tried to uninstall Bridge and all ACR related software, then installing 14.5 but I could still not open my old HDR files in dng format.

 

I really hope the "basic" panel will come back, I had just got into the new interfance since you changed it a few years ago. 

 

Lightroom still got the "old" interface...

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Community Expert ,
Oct 25, 2023 Oct 25, 2023

@Wultimurt 

 

I've moved your post to Adobe Camera Raw for you.

 

Jane

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 30, 2023 Oct 30, 2023

Will there be a roll back in UI?

This in an unacceptable update, you should at least have the option to use a "classic" UI.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 10, 2023 Nov 10, 2023

After about 2 weeks of use I noticed I do more scrolling in camera raw than on my phone...

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 21, 2024 Feb 21, 2024

Now geometry is moved, more clicks than ever for me now as an interior photographer.

You pushing me towards using another editor.

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New Here ,
Feb 24, 2024 Feb 24, 2024

Also guides are not available when having to change Geometry under the Crop panel. 

All these changes are disruptive.

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Explorer ,
Feb 24, 2024 Feb 24, 2024

The IT team behind this change simply isn't aware of the damage they are creating by such changes. They are blinded by the urge of categorizing (or anything less important), yet they throw away the usability of the Basic panel, built in the past.

Are these people totally dumb? Instead of maintaining the productivity, these changes force more and more wasted time because of stupid changes. Adobe! Productivity is first, fancy things and unnecessary categorizing is second, third, etc.

With this change Adobe improved:

- Zero things for the existing user base.

Introduced the following problems:

- All books, documentation, videos created regarding the basic panel became outdared. A huge confusion for everybody who meets slightly old tutorials.

- Solo mode for panels is broken. Power users must constantly jump between 3 panels to adjust the sliders. The beauty and usability of solo mode is gone. Should we send invoices to Adobe for extra time needed from now on?

- Ctrl-numpad switching is gone, since the number of panels has gone over 10. If the programmers, team leaders and beta testers aren't using this feature, it doesn't means, nobody is using!

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 24, 2024 Feb 24, 2024

Agree. Do they even have an UX team who is testing againt photographers nowdays?

 

The color panel is infact wrong, if a panel is named color ALL color settings should be there, its not the case...

because you also got "color mixer" and "color grading". STUPID!!! Not user friendly, only confusing. 

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 02, 2023 Nov 02, 2023

Thank you Erik Bloodaxe.

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