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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

Adobe Employee ,
May 16, 2024 May 16, 2024

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This post applies to Camera Raw.
Post Lightroom Feedback here
 

This thread is now closed. Please update to Camera Raw 17.x. If you wish to provide feedback, please go to the new article.

 
The Photography team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. 
 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)


If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings.

 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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Participant ,
Jul 04, 2024 Jul 04, 2024

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I'm finding that it wants to "replace" rather than "remove". Swapping a pole for another type of pole for instance.

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New Here ,
Jul 04, 2024 Jul 04, 2024

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Hi, I am using AI generative Remove for about two weeks now and I must say sometimes it works fantastic.

 

But sometimes it is impossible to control. I am mainly using the tool to remove items that disturb in my picture. My main interest is to remove artifacts that disturb me and let the AI generate the perfect background that fits in the original surrounding, like the "Entfernen" Tool in photoshop 2024 which I do use often after the raw or dng process

 

Unfortunately  the AI Remove tool for Lightroom classic is to much into creating new things to substitute the removed stuff.

For example if Idid remove a lamp it is creating new different style lamps instead of filling perfectly the hole.

 

As I work in a documentary style photography this is mainly not what I need and it would be great to find a solution for people, that just want to let disappear little disturbing artifacts and nobody would recognize it after.

Why do you not try, beside that main topic of generating new things, to work just on a tool that 100% helps for to let disappear disturbing stuff and you cant see that it was there.

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Jul 04, 2024 Jul 04, 2024

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Still not perfect, but ...

I've had better luck getting clean and usable (sometimes amazingly good) removals if I plan the removal  and execute it ►before I do anything else◄  to the image.

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New Here ,
Jul 09, 2024 Jul 09, 2024

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 Unfortunately, I'm frustrated with the new version because when it comes to spot removal, it keeps asking for an update and does not save the changes I made, which is costing me a huge amount of time.

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Jul 10, 2024 Jul 10, 2024

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Overall surprisingly impressed.

It is so close to being excellent for the removal of small annoyances. If it were a little more intuitive (could give it a couple preprogrammed prompts, i.e. remove flyaway hairs; does not need to be as limitless as photoshop), it would save even more trips into Photoshop, thus saving time and money for our business. It's almost there, just noticing a few discrepancies here and there. 

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New Here ,
Jul 14, 2024 Jul 14, 2024

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Ich will 2 Menschen entfernen. Als Ergebniss werden trotz erweitern und aktuallisieren Lustige Figuren angezeigt. So ein Müll hatten wir vorher nicht, Normal wäre kenzeichnen und das Objekt wird mit dem Hintergrund ersetzt. Bis das mal erreicht wird bin ich gestorben.

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New Here ,
Jul 15, 2024 Jul 15, 2024

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Well mostly successful but then changed a person to a black dog instead of rocks and sand, then changed a man with a camera to a woman with a camers??

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New Here ,
Jul 19, 2024 Jul 19, 2024

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Generative Remove is a magic Harry Potter wand!  I used it to delete an object at not th - it did the job unexpectedly brilliant! Thank you so much

 

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New Here ,
Jul 21, 2024 Jul 21, 2024

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not use ai

 

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Jul 22, 2024 Jul 22, 2024

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With a little patience and following the guidelines carefully, this works brilliantly.  

I'm sure it'll get better still over time.

Meanwhile massive congrats on a fantastically useful feature !

 

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Jul 22, 2024 Jul 22, 2024

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The recommended order for applying edits is:

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings.

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Jul 29, 2024 Jul 29, 2024

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Even after doing the steps described above the AI Generative tool continues to error out. 

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Aug 01, 2024 Aug 01, 2024

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Generally speaking the a.i gen remove tool in Lightroom is pretty good.  My general workflow is from Lightroom classic synced to Lightroom Ipad.  For the most part, a smart preview sync is all i need.  

The problem now being able to do gen a.i removal on the ipad means that im only working only a lower res version of my photo, so that when said photo is synced back to lightroom classic, the photo itself is (in this case 61MP) but the generative a.i bit is very low res.

Can we have a button or a function where it will automatically detect this and re-gen all "a.i removals" within Lightroom Classic ?
Right now I can do this, but i need to manually go into each edit and press 'refresh'

Thank you!

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Aug 02, 2024 Aug 02, 2024

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Objet supprimé facilement, résultat impressionnant !

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Aug 03, 2024 Aug 03, 2024

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Hi 

 

I don't understand !!!!! I want to remove an object in CR with AI. But I just want the background in place, just the BACKGROUND !!!  But AI replaces this object by 3 possible others object. Why ?????

Thanks for feedback and have a nice day

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 04, 2024 Aug 04, 2024

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I blurred the backround around a horse's head and upper neck and got some artifacts, which looked like hair standing up along the horse's neck, ears, and upper neck- along the edge.  I used the remove tool to remove them.  Geoff

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Aug 27, 2024 Aug 27, 2024

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I find it confusing that an AI Fill command in the Remove panel would default to replacement when certain objects are selected. Try removing a wine glass lingering in the background of a shot and you will be treated to a global tour of replacement table settings. Super cool, but a bit frustrating if you are looking to do something much simpler. I would really like to see a checkbox or toggle switch to choose Remove vs. Replace. Remove would tell the AI to draw heavily on the surrounding part of the photo to fill an area, and "Replace" would be a flag to get creative. It answers the question: “What do you want to do here?

 

(Using feature in Camera Raw)

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Aug 27, 2024 Aug 27, 2024

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¿Does using the Object Aware option, or not, make a difference?

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Aug 27, 2024 Aug 27, 2024

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I agree 100% to this proper idea :light_bulb:
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Aug 28, 2024 Aug 28, 2024

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Hi, Thank you for including the generative ai tool in lightroom. According to my short experience it does not do its job in the edges and especially in the corners. I attach an example file. Look at the bottom right corner.

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Aug 31, 2024 Aug 31, 2024

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I've noticed a couple of glitches using Generative AI.  I've noticed in some cases, that the outline of the selction appears on the modified image.  I've also noticed that some of  the generated area is both unsharp, and doesn't match the original image's noise pattern.

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Sep 02, 2024 Sep 02, 2024

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am loving generative remove but sometimes I wish AI could peg on abit better that sometimes I really literally want an item to be REMOVED and not replaced with an alternative item. An example would be me trying to remove the corner of a painting on a white wall and instead of having it replaced with the background of a white wall, I am given various choices of alternative paintings to replace said corner of painting ha!

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Sep 03, 2024 Sep 03, 2024

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I really like the access through the camera RAW, and I have a suggestion. could you include the option to NOT generate people in the generation? When you want to delete people it is very frustrating.

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Engaged ,
Sep 06, 2024 Sep 06, 2024

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1. Starting in Bridge, sending to ACR, using Eraser tool

2. using Generative AI, brush size 3

3. straight line drawn by Shift+click 

Powerlines, specially across canapes of forest and bushes result in a blurry error.

4. Can't upload the NEF from the D850 (47 Megapixel). That 47 MB limit is quite a bad idea if you want customers to upload todays raw files from cameras having > 45 megapixel images. Error message see attachment. Who the heck makes such idiot decisions at Adobe? Fire that person.

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Sep 06, 2024 Sep 06, 2024

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Yes, I have seen the blurry effect often generated when removing power lines and similar.

Personally I have found the Heal tool better at this. Usually it generates perfect results and of course it does not deplete your Generative Credits of which I receive only 250 per month!

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