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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.
Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos.
Note:
Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post.
Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature:
When using the slider, the key values to note are:
Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
When to use Reflection Removal
The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future.
Example use-cases for the feature include:
How best to use Reflection Removal
For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions:
Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group
Update (01-16-2025)
To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!
If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!
~Rikk
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I think I figured it out - it was a reflection in a window in the background that couldn't be removed. When I did a test shot through a window, it worked well.
Are you sure you're using the 'best' setting and not 'preview'? Preview will certainly show you a blurry pic. But on certain images, reflection removal removes too much, and you get a muddle. Adjusting the intensity slider can help.
Removing eyeglass reflections is a goal Adobe mentioned in their blog post from last December (Removing window reflections in Adobe Camera Raw), so at least we know they’re interested in working on it.
Those results are consistent with a lot of the reports in this thread…it works fine on recent computers (for Macs, that means Apple Silicon M1 through M4 work great), but there seems to be a problem with the graphics drivers for the GPU in some Intel Macs, and this feature relies heavily on the GPU. Because Mac graphics drivers are supplied by Apple, it might need a macOS update to get fixed. But we never know exactly what Apple will fix in the next macOS update, so no guarantees.
Did you by any chance just use the 'preview' mode instead of the best mode? A lot of people have been making that error, and the preview mode is intentionally low res.
Seems Quality is on "preview". Try setting it on "best".
Eric,
do I understand it well the reflections will only be removed when the glass plate fills the whole frame of the picture. As it won't remove reflections from a windows that's part of a larger picture.
I tried to cut part of the picture, so only a small part of the window remains. Feed only the small part to the reflection removal and paste it back into the original picture, using Photoshop. It's not perfect, but ..
I noticed doing this, the reflection feature reacts differently than using the entire picture. With the entire picture I can't get any reflection off either.
well Eric, since I tempory used the jpg picture kastalia67_s provided, I had to work in jpeg. I only shoot RAW and I only use Ps. Just wanted to see what it would do if I narrowed the view to just a part of that car window like it was one whole picture. And it did work.
If I can use that technique with a RAW, the result can only be better.
Looking forward to see support for small panes of glass in RAW.
FitzFoto, that suggestion will not work. That crop will not change the RAW result. To remove reflections from a cropped region you must convert the RAW image to a PNG/TIFF/JPEG.
Here is one workflow:
1. Open the image in Lightroom.
2. Make a virtual copy, and crop the virtual copy
3. Export the original and cropped image as TIFF files
4. Open the original and cropped TIFF in Photoshop
5. Use the Camera RAW filter to remove reflections from the cropped image
6. Copy the clean, cropped image int
...Kastalia, please precisely follow the steps I enumerated. It will work. There are other variants that will work, but not what you did.
FitzFhoto, as you probably know, when you crop a RAW photo in Lr or ACR, the underlying image is not modified. Specifying a crop simply tells Lr/ACR how to render that RAW image onto your screen. The remove reflections tool operates before the crop is applied by Lr/ACR when your RAW is rendered onto your screen. Why? There is a long list of usability issues th
...Hi Eric,
I just tested your steps, precisely.
Screen capture shows you a little reflection suppress in part of the girls face.
Well it is the best I could achieve up to now.
Here are the steps :
1. Open the image in Lightroom.
2. Make a virtual copy, and crop the virtual copy
3. Export the original and cropped image as TIFF files
4. Open the original and cropped TIFF in Photoshop
5. Use the Camera RAW filter to remove reflections from the cropped image
6. Copy the clean, cropped image into the original
7.
...That explains, why it removed some of the reflections in my workflow. I didn't actually crop the picture. I marked the area, copied, created a new image and paste only that part. So, it had no other information of a larger picture when I applied the reflection removal.
Then I copied the result back to the original picture and aligned it.
That’s expected…the feature is currently designed to remove reflections in a window filling the entire image frame between camera and subject. Eyeglasses only cover a small area of the frame so they aren’t handled yet. But in the original Adobe blog post announcing reflection removal, they did say they’d like to handle eyeglasses in a future update.
Since the blog post was published last December they did add support for some non-raw formats, extended the feature to Lightroom, and just introdu
...We can all see the reflections in the floor, but from what Adobe has said throughout this thread and in their blog post, the feature is currently designed to more clearly reveal what’s showing behind the reflections in a large transparent glass window covering the entire frame. Although they might cover more use cases later.
Removing the reflections from the floor with the current version of this feature wouldn’t be expected to reveal anything behind the floor, because the floor isn’t supposed
...Not always, but it's better on RAW pictures as they contain more detail information.
But if the glass plate with the reflection doesn't cover the whole image, it doesn't work on RAW either.
This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:
Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”
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This utility does not work on CR3 files. I tried to run a CR3 and it said that this file type was not supported.
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I czn see no differnce on the reflection on his glasses:
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No effect.
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Please refer to the blog, which explains the types of reflections that the tool currently removes. Small reflections like glasses will not be removed. Ideally the reflection should fill most of the view, and thus be blocking you from viewing your subject.
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Worked for me (.NEF). There might be overlaps with some other's reports but hopefully it increases the sample size.
I do most of my photo processing in Lightroom Classic and it is still tricky to use the feature alongside Lightroom. I can use it only if I open the .NEF file directly in Photoshop, not through Lightroom. Someone suggested somewhere that the feature is enabled if I choose the "Edit as Smart Object in Photoshop" option but that did not work either. The feature will be exponentially more useful once there is a way to transition seamlessly to it from LrC.
It still struggles in an *inconsistent* fashion in removing reflection from direct light sources (and just very bright white reflections in general). For the examle below, it removed the lights on the upper left and left corner but kept the light clusters near the center, which are the more important ones since they overlap with the subject. In other instances I have tested, it failed to remove 1 out of 2 reflections from illuminated white boards and a bright white foot sign on the floor.
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Lightroom support is planned in the future (as mentioned in the blog). Light sources and other saturated regions create holes, and are therefore are better removed using various hole-filling tools, such as Generative Remove. After applying those tools to this example, I believe you can obtain a high quality end result.
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Those are tools that I normally use. I just wanted to see how it performs on its own and was surprised to see how the light sources were treated inconsistently.
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Someone suggested somewhere that the feature is enabled if I choose the "Edit as Smart Object in Photoshop" option but that did not work either.
By @Pseudoryx
If done properly, it will always work starting from Lightroom Classic. The tricky thing is that “Edit as Smart Object in Photoshop” is only half the answer. After it opens in Photoshop as a document containing the raw file as a Smart Object layer, you also have to make sure you edit the raw Smart Object in a way that acts on the actual raw data.
Where a lot of people get tripped up (many examples in this thread) is trying to edit that raw smart object by choosing the command Filter > Camera Raw Filter, or by pressing its keyboard shortcut out of habit. This will never work for any features requiring raw data. That’s because the filter version of Camera Raw is a cut-down (features missing) version that doesn’t actually access the raw data, so currently raw-only features like reflection removal and Denoise will never appear if you use Camera Raw Filter.
The right way to do it: In the Layers panel, double-click the raw Smart Object layer. That is a shortcut for the correct command to use, which is Layer > Smart Objects > Edit Contents. That command does use the full Camera Raw processor with all of its features.
If you put those two steps together, it will work from Lightroom Classic through Photoshop:
1. In Lightroom Classic, use “Edit as Smart Object in Photoshop” as you already did.
2. In Photoshop, double-click the raw Smart Object layer.
That’s all it takes, just those two steps.
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Thank you. Still a lot more steps than I wanted but hopefully future Lightroom support will make it frictionless.
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For Windows users, if you observed the feature producing garbage output (noise/static, etc.) with Camera Raw 17.1, please update to Camera Raw 17.2 and try again. Version 17.2 includes a change that should improve compatability with some GPU on Windows.
If you have seem results like that on Mac, unfortunetly we have not yet been able to provide a fix in 17.2.
Thanks,
David
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I tried it a week ago with great results. Very impressed! I tried it again on the same photo (to show someone) and the -100 setting no longer shows the reflection, just a white screen. The +100 setting does a great job of removal. What happened to the -100 view?
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Please share the source image so we can check if this a bug.
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jfiterman bonjour
Non, vous faites rien de mal. C'est Adobe qui n'a pas encore résolu tous les problèmes.
Je possède comme vous un FujiFilm GFX 100 et un Fujifilm GFX 100S II et un iMac macOS dernière mise à jour.
Il nous reste plus qu'à patience le bon vouloir de Adobe.
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remove reflections did not pick up the airplane window reflection at all, maybe offer a manual selection option for the reflections?
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Thanks for your suggestion!
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My image has a complex pure reflection. The result of the image is not good yet.
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This is an extremely challenging case because it's difficult for even me (a person) to understand, since I was not there. I wonder if you can use the strength slider to create a composite that achieves the result you want?
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I would love it if the reflections tool worked on glasses. I was hoping the reflection removal tool might be able to remove these reflections in my subject's glasses with just a click. Tilted the glasses down and raised the octabox for the next few photos, but the expression on this photo is great. I can do some photoshop work, but boy, would a glasses reflection removal tool be amazing!
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We noted in our blog that this is planned in the future.
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Actually took some pics today with deliberate reflections in glass window. Then tried the remove reflections on a couple of images - total failure! But on another one - it worked. So, looks like a bit of a hit and miss. Looks like have to wait for better updates
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I'd love to share some of my successes and failures, but the system is now telling me that the maximum allowed file size for attachments is 9.79 MB (that's really low). I certainly can't attach my RAW files with that kind of limit ... but I'll try to upload to a file sharing service instead. Sigh.
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it is taking forever and not really good results.
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The tool currently does not remove reflections on small panes of glass in the scene. It removes reflections that cover your whole view. In the future we plan to address a broader range of cases. The blog explains this in more detail.
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