P: (Technology Preview) Reflection Removal (CR)

Report · Nov 05, 2024

This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos.

Note:

The feature currently only works on raw photos. Support for non-raw photos (e.g., JPEGs or HEICs) will be added in a future update.

There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release.

Check out the HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post.

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature:

Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate).

Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox.

Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing.

Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise.

When using the slider, the key values to note are:

0 – the input photo

100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo

-100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera)

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future.

Example use-cases for the feature include:

Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.)

Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows)

Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.)

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions:

Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
- The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
- If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group

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Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

Report · Jan 08, 2025

I have tried 4 photos and it pixilates the photo. They are all artworks that I did and are behind glass. I read that it should work but it doesn't. My raw files are not compressed and I use a Canon R6 and it saves raw as CR3.

I would love some suggestions and help

Jane

By @painterjan

Can you please provide a link to download one of the CR3 files that does not work?
Can you please send me the full system info for your computer? In Photoshop please select "System Info" from the Help menu and copy the information.

Thanks for your help!

Report · Jan 09, 2025

I didn't see your reply, I was getting inundated with posts in my email.

here is a link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tmdP1P4fxjHAbgYio-bJaFebz6CdbMiH/view?usp=sharing

photoshop info:

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Report · Jan 07, 2025

The replies here have been very helpful. Particularly as some have had the same problem as me - rejection of NEF files. It seems the new tool only works if a NEF raw file is opened directly into Camer Raw from the file explorer (I'm using Windows). Opening a NEF file from Lightroom results in the file being "not recognised". I've had some success. The best was the mummies, wher the tool removed all reflections and with a bit of clean-up, I ended-up with a nice reminder of my visit to the museum. The bronze sculture of the ballet dancer proved a challenge for the tool. It only removed the reflection of the bronze bust and left the reflection of the tutu. Again, some clean-up with the Remove tool gave me a nice image. Finally, the tool removed nearly all the reflectios from the case containing the swords. There's just a hint of reflection in the centre top it couldn't remove.

Report · Jan 07, 2025

Sorry - grabbed the wrong files for the swords. Here they are.

Report · Jan 08, 2025

To remove reflections from raw images in Lightroom Classic, right-click on the image and select "Edit In->Open as Smart Object in Photoshop". Then in photoshop you can double click the smart object layer, and the Camera Raw plugin will appear with the option to remove reflections. You can edit as needed and save. This will allow you to manage the cleaned TIFF within Lightroom.

Report · Jan 08, 2025

I followed the steps to actvate thsi feature, even rebooting my mac, but it still does not allow me to use. On Mac mini M2 pro, Sequoia 15.2.

Report · Jan 08, 2025

I followed the steps to actvate thsi feature, even rebooting my mac, but it still does not allow me to use. On Mac mini M2 pro, Sequoia 15.2.

By @Aimee V Photo

What message is shown when you mouse over the ! warning icon?
Can you please provide a link to this NEF file for me to download?
Can you please send me the full system info for your Mac Mini M2? In Photoshop please select "System Info" from the Help menu and copy the information.

Thank for your help.

Report · Jan 08, 2025

Did not allow the check box to activate on .NEF image?

Report · Jan 09, 2025

Picked up some of the reflections but not all. Would help to have a brush to "coach" it as to where the reflections are. Admittedly picture was taken from a bus window, so the reflections are quite complex.