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P: Ability to see EXIF data

LEGEND ,
Apr 16, 2011 Apr 16, 2011

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I would like to be able to see more, and probably all, of the EXIF data store by my camera.

There are many reasons for this; I am sure each person can supply their own!

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LEGEND ,
Apr 16, 2011 Apr 16, 2011

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What data are you looking for and not seeing?

Photoshop should already show you all the data it knows how to read.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 16, 2011 Apr 16, 2011

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Chris, it's great to see someone from Adobe respond so quickly.

There is a LOT of information in EXIF that is not displayed by either LR or Bridge. I have another request about one specific piece of Nikon information: the focus point. Also, all of the items that you can choose in a camera's "shooting menu" are typically stored in EXIF, but only a few are displayed in LR/Bridge.

Btw, LR and Bridge do not display the same info. Some things are displayed in one, but not the other, I believe.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 16, 2011 Apr 16, 2011

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Again, we need specifics. Some data is not readable because it is in the manufacturer's proprietary "maker note" and we can't decipher their meanings. If it's in a documented EXIF field, then we should already be showing it.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 16, 2011 Apr 16, 2011

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I think Adobe could implement native support for Exif metadata that is all inclusive - even if its manufacturer proprietary..., as exiftool can do now.

In the mean time, I just made a change to ExifMeta to include *all* of a photo's Exif data in Lightroom as a big block of text in right-hand library panel for viewing (not usable in lib filters nor smart collections). There is also the long-standing capability to select *any* individual fields that *can* be used in lib filters and smart collections.

Whatever exiftool supports, Lightroom supports too via ExifMeta.

PS - ACDSee supports all exif metadata too - deciphered, formatted, in database for searching & sorting... (including maker notes)

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LEGEND ,
Apr 16, 2011 Apr 16, 2011

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Once again I'm in a quandry:

I think this is a really good idea. So good that I wrote a plugin which does exactly what you are asking for, and although its not as seamless as native, its good enough for me, for now.

So do I vote for this request?

I feel sorry for people who can't tap all the exif metadata in Lightroom, because they aren't willing to put up with ExifMeta's "seams", or they don't know about it, or they don't trust plugins, or are embarrassed to admit they are intimidated by them..., but I don't have any missing metadata whatsoever in my copy of Lightroom.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 16, 2011 Apr 16, 2011

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Again, we need specifics. Maker notes are proprietary, and almost entirely undocumented - that makes them kind of difficult to support correctly. We can try, but we may not succeed where the manufacturer is going out of their way to make the data inaccessible.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 16, 2011 Apr 16, 2011

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Chris, I really don't know much about it. I just blindly used ExifTool output to populate metadata fields without interpretation. ACDSee supports everything, but I don't know how they did it, or whether they do it for all mfr models... Maybe somebody else can provide the specific information you need.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 16, 2011 Apr 16, 2011

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All the info in maker notes is plain text in standard tif blocks, at least for most mfr models. In the case of Nikon, its even clearly documented, I dunno bout the others. I would think Adobe could just fish it out and display it "undeciphered". The users know how to interpret it. The only deciphering needed, IMO, is to unescape the few fields that have some uuencoding (e.g. GPS). I mean if ExifTool & ACDSee can do it, Adobe can too, no?

PS - Apple is harvesting focus points from maker notes to display in Aperture for various models.

Surely Adobe can figure this out...

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Participant ,
Apr 18, 2011 Apr 18, 2011

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LEGEND ,
Apr 20, 2011 Apr 20, 2011

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LR doesn't test or support plugins, so they are not an answer to every problem.

In my view, plugins are a viable alternative if they are either (i) a temporary solution pluging-up a hole in one version of LR that is to be addressed in the next version or (ii) or so unique or creative or go beyond the core functions of LR or cater to a specific isolated use, that Adobe couldn't be expected to replicate them, provided that Adobe does something to boost confidence in plugins.

Consider that LR has free access to the system and now to a user's online accounts as well. I can't just haphazardly add 40 plugins (which still wouldn't plug-up all of the holes, some of which have been known since LR 1) to my system. There needs to be some transparency, control and testing of plugins before I jump in, and then I will pick only a handful of really useful things.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 20, 2011 Apr 20, 2011

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I meant to say "Adobe doesn't test or support plugins..." but I can't change it.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 20, 2011 Apr 20, 2011

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All plugins on the exchange are tested by Adobe QE.

PS - that includes ExifMeta and Jeffrey's...

Not pushing - just correcting...

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LEGEND ,
Apr 20, 2011 Apr 20, 2011

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Adobe doesn't provide technical support for 3rd party plugins, of course, but they do support them by way of investing a substantial part of Lr development resources so they can be written by 3rd parties and used by the Lr user-base... Maybe an Exif viewer should be your foray into plugins...

In any case, judging from Adobe's response, I don't think you can count on complete Exif metadata support in Lr4. Given that, you may want to make a prioritized list of which items are most important, since they are more likely to add them for you, if they know which ones you want most.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 22, 2011 Apr 22, 2011

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Quote: "Maker notes are proprietary, and almost entirely undocumented - that makes them kind of difficult to support correctly. We can try, but we may not succeed where the manufacturer is going out of their way to make the data inaccessible."

- I think in the cases where the manufacturer is truly going out of their way to make the data inaccessible, then forget it - but in the case of Nikon, its plain text data in standard tif metadata format - dunno 'bout the others...

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Engaged ,
May 19, 2011 May 19, 2011

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I would love to have Maker notes exiftool can as you said Rob, so I would expect lightroom could as well. As for other EXIF field I can give examples:
GPS: I cannot see the bearing, ....
EXIF comments are not there
microsoft XMP to tag faces is not there
,...
even if it is not a full featured DAM if lightroom could at least display all the available metadata so that it can be searchable, then it would be great.
Also it would be great to be able to edit most of them such as the time ,...

Anyway thank's for listening

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 24, 2011 Jul 24, 2011

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Unfortunately not all EXIF-fields are available in the library. (Only via plug ins such as Jeffrey’s “Metadata-Viewer Preset Editor”)

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LEGEND ,
Jul 24, 2011 Jul 24, 2011

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There’s quite a lot of metadata in a document that Photoshop can show (File info) that isn’t visible in LR which would be nice. There’s all kinds of useful data found in File Info>Advanced that isn’t visible in LR. The Adobe Photoshop Properties for examples provides the embedded ICC profile that would be useful to see somewhere in LR (and to use with a Smart Collection).
Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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LEGEND ,
Jul 24, 2011 Jul 24, 2011

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+1 vote for embedded ICC profile

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 01, 2016 Jul 01, 2016

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Hello,

I would also like to have additional Olympus Exifs visible in Lightroom. The info drive is very interesting to determine whether the image is part of a hdr or bracketing.



Best wishes Robert

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 30, 2017 Aug 30, 2017

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Is there any information available whether Adobe plans to add this feature, especially the extended exifs for Olympus cameras, into the next Lightroom release ? Up to now, it has not been added, although there were several updates in between.

BR Robert

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 04, 2017 Nov 04, 2017

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In the latest version of Lightroom Classic this feature is not available. Is it that difficult to add this to the exif menu ? 

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Enthusiast ,
Nov 04, 2017 Nov 04, 2017

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Hi Robert.

It is clear that Adobe is not going to satisfy your request, so you might want to think about how to get what you want.

I need to access the "macromagnification" data, which is a proprietary field put in raw files by Canon.

I first move that data to a field that is easily accessed—in my case the "event" metadata, which I don't otherwise use—with exiftool:
$ exiftool -overwrite_original_in_place -tagsFromFile %f.CR2 "-event<Macromagnification" *.xmp
Then I use Jeffrey's Data Explorer plugin to create collections for each value of the event field, and I assign a unique keyword to the files in each of these collections. It is sort of a PITA, but it works.

You can run the exiftool command from the command line, or you can get John Beardsworth's Capture Time to EXIF plugin to run the command from within Lightroom.

As they say, "It is better to light a candle..."

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Participant ,
Nov 04, 2017 Nov 04, 2017

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I use Rob Cole‘s ExifMeta plug-in. Although it‘s several years old it still works great.

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