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maryp99409174
maryp99409174
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October 11, 2018
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Eyes Are out of nowhere being wonky and crazy

  • October 11, 2018
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I've watched and read the debugging blog and video and its not stray pixels as my pupils and eyeballs are vectors. It was working fine this week and now out of nowhere the eyes are acting crazy.

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    alank99101739
    alank99101739
    Legend
    March 29, 2019

    If the eyes go in the opposite direction than expected, the normal thing is the Pupil Size layer is greater than the Pupil Range layer. This could be stray artwork in the pupil layer, or mistagging of the pupil range (e.g. multiple tags). I would check the blue and yellow outlines for the pupil size and pupil range layers (whatever has been tagged with those tags) to see if the bounding boxes is larger/smaller than you expected.

    J
    j_n_m
    Participant
    June 4, 2019

    I found that starting a completely new project, and using the exact same PSD seemed to fix the issues I was having with this (eyes going the wrong way/crazy eyes).  Also seemed to fix it so the performance is better overall.  I guess something in the original project was wonky and had to use the IT Crowd workaround.

    alank99101739
    alank99101739
    Legend
    October 11, 2018

    https://extra-ordinary.tv/2018/04/21/debugging-character-animator-eyess/ ... oh darn, did you say you read that already!

    The main culprits are:

    • The tagging hierarchy in Character Animator. If a stray tag snuck in somewhere, it can mess things up.
    • The "+" of independence was missed on a pupil it can cause the problem as well.
    • Stray pixels or "pupil range"s that are smaller than the pupil

    Can you provide a screenshot of the layer hierarchy inside character animator?

    If you share a puppet I don't mind having a quick look. (Use the File menu export puppet and upload to Google Drive or similar.)

    Hmm, I notice the nose disappeared as well? And the mouth is different. Probably unrelated, but curious nonetheless.

    maryp99409174
    maryp99409174Author
    Participant
    October 11, 2018

    I sent the puppet to you let me know if you can dl it!

    alank99101739
    alank99101739
    Legend
    October 11, 2018

    Hi Mary - I did download it, but it is a bit funky in ways I did not understand from a quick glance. I had some problems loading the file - talking about missing "smart vector" content.  I think you may be using some features Character Animator does not support (I am guessing) - it appears to be getting confused about what barriers are where. E.g. the blush bounding box goes beyond the face:

    I don't think CH is doing a good job of coping with these parts. E.g. in CH I select the "sweatdrop" on the forehead (see the blue outline) and it shows the yellow contour around the body!

    I think there is something hidden in the layers getting CH confused causing some of these problems. I am having a look, but not immediately obvious.


    Here is a bit more strangeness. The "Left Eye" is also marked with Left AND RIght Pupil range - that definitely needs fixing, but is not the whole story.

    Also the "Right Pupil" (and Left Pupil) layers have a child layer with the same name - I think is this just how PhotoShop works, but it looked strange having the parent and child layers both with Left Pupil and Left Pupil Size on... but it might be okay.

    After fiddling I got it so the Left eye works fine, but the Right eye works fine up/down but is crazy (wrong direction) for left/right. Weird...

    However, PhotoShop is saying it cannot find all the files, so not sure if the above is enough to fix it for you know - maybe I am hitting something weird about the PSD file not having all the externally referenced files correctly.

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