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Urgent update- Support for Azul OpenJDK

Forum|Forum|4 years ago
July 20, 2021
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On the 16th of June, we'd announced support for Azul OpenJDK for ColdFusion going forward and we'd also posted a blog.

We have a breaking update for you all regarding the migration.

Our planned roll out of Coldfusion installers with Azul Zulu JDK has been put on hold. We will continue with our regular update cycles for now with Oracle JDK.

We expect to provide further updates on the Java migration by December 2021.

If you have questions (we know you do), please use this thread. We shall respond ASAP.

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C

carl type3

Brainiac

Hello Saurav,

Any information update that relates to this "We expect to provide further updates on the Java migration by December 2021"?

Regards, Carl.

C

carl type3

Brainiac

Hello Saurav,

December 2021 is behind us now. Any information update that relates to this "We expect to provide further updates on the Java migration by December 2021"?

Regards, Carl.

C

carl type3

Brainiac

Hello Saurav,

Still wondering if there is an update to Azul announcement?

Thanks, Carl

BKBK

Adobe Expert

Adobe's update in the blog needs repeating here:

"Our planned roll out of ColdFusion support of the Azul Zulu OpenJDK (including new CF installers) has been put on hold. We will continue for now with our regular update cycles, supporting the Oracle JVM (JDK or JRE).

We expect to provide further updates on Java support changes by December 2021."

Charlie Arehart

Adobe Expert

Curious to hear why you felt that needed to be repeated. It's the same info Saurav said in his post here. It seems you see things otherwise?

/Charlie (troubleshooter, carehart. org)

Charlie Arehart

Adobe Expert

Ah, yes. On second thoughts, that sounds a bit zen. Unintentionally. It could do with some detail. 🙂

I added it further to my own question,

"could you go ahead with Oracle JDK 11.0.11?"

and remark,

"I asked because I saw that Oracle JDK 11.0.12 is already in the pipeline"

having just seen that Java SE 11.0.12 (LTS) is now available for use in ColdFusion 2018 and 2021.

To clarify, yes java 11.0.12 (and 1.8.0_301) came out on July 20.

And Fwiw, Adobe would have supported your moving to them as soon as they came out. We don't NEED to wait for them to post the download. They're the same binaries Oracle offers (which binary includes the identical license), if someone may want to move to them sooner.

But none of that really explains why you felt the need to repeat the point about the change regarding Azul support. And in any case, none of my comment is really advancing that point, so let's leave the beaten horse to lie. 🙂

/Charlie (troubleshooter, carehart. org)

BKBK

Adobe Expert

So, if you were on ColdFusion 2018 or 2021, could you go ahead with Oracle JDK 11.0.11?

Charlie Arehart

Adobe Expert

BKBK, to be clear, one can "go ahead with Oracle JDK 11.0.11" right now, with CF2021 or 2018 (if on CF2018's update 2 or later, or even on CF2016 if on its update 8 or later--those are the updates that added Java 11 support for those CF versions).

What was SUPPOSED to change was that we'd be expected to change to using Azul (after applying CF2021 update 2 or CF2018 update 12--those which are now in prerelease). But it's THAT Azul support which is now on hold.

So bottom line: yes, everyone on CF2021 and 2018 should be using Oracle Java 11.0.11 (the current latest release of Java 11, and which is the current latest LTS release of Oracle Java). If it interests anyone, I have a post with a table of CF versions and what JVM versions they formally support.

I do realize you may have been wanting to hear from Adobe instead. If there's anything about what I've said that needs any clarification, I'm open to feedback from anyone. In all this, I'm just trying to help us all "move the ball down the field".

/Charlie (troubleshooter, carehart. org)

BKBK

Adobe Expert

Charlie, thanks for your reply. I just needed confirmation that Oracle JDK 11.0.11 is the latest. I asked because I saw that Oracle JDK 11.0.12 is already in the pipeline.

Charlie Arehart

Adobe Expert

Wow, indeed. But where does that put things, with regard to everything ELSE in the prerelease (with its new installers for CF2021 and 2018, new updates for CF2021 and 2018, updates for CFBuilder, and more)?

Is it that you'll roll all that out still with support for Azul? Or will you need to pull all the Azul-related changes out, but still proceed with the new installers and updates?

To be clear, the new installers not only were changing to support Azul but also to a) roll in all previous updates (especially important for CF2018), b) update both CF2021 and 2018 to run on Java 11.0.11 (vs they 11.0.1 that even CF2021 came out with), and c) update Tomcat to 9.0.43, aong other things.

While you may be choosing proceed with only the updates for CF2021 and 2018 (and without the Azul support, if that's what all this means), my point is that the updates alone wouldn't solve the other problems I just mentioned--or would they somehow?

Then there's the new installer for CF to support MacOS Big Sur. (It's also unclear from the prerelease if the new CFBuilder 2018 installer there was ALSO adding support for Big Sur.)

So again, please clarify what this change means with regard to what all ELSE is in the prerelease--which I'd just blogged about with more info, for those who have not yet checked it out: Lots more to the current CF2021, 2018 prerelease than folks may realize

/Charlie (troubleshooter, carehart. org)

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