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Adobe, Linux Support, and the Linux Foundation.

Community Beginner ,
Apr 08, 2019 Apr 08, 2019

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While generally I've only lurked the Adobe forums I've finally worked up guts to post this. I also know that about every 1-2 months this question is asked but I think it deserves a another go around.

 

My premises is this:

 

Adobe joined the Linux Foundation in 2008 for a focus on Linux for Web 2.0  Applications like Adobe® Flash® Player and Adobe AIR™. Currently Adobe holds a silver membership status with the Linux Foundation. So why in the world do they not have any Creative Cloud Programs available in Linux without the need for WINE and other such workarounds. I think it's a sucky move to support the Linux Foundation and use Linux in the back-end while not doing anything to support actual Linux users who have for at least a decade requested Adobe desktop products on Linux. Sure it's going to take a lot of manpower, financial resources, etc. But to truly support Linux and the Linux Foundation I think it's necessary that y'all do make things like Photoshop and Lightroom available for the Linux desktop. In any regards the wider Linux community would most likely help with testing and debugging programs. We're used to it.

 

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Aug 22, 2013 Aug 22, 2013

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There was a server version of Photoshop that Adobe was testing but never released. I think it was around when CS came out. We looked into it for our staff. Basically PS would run on the LAN and everyone accessed it from there.

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Aug 23, 2013 Aug 23, 2013

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I agree with you. And on top of that big gaming companyes now support linux. Like Valve the owners of steam. Who are pushing to get ever game in their store to run on linux nativaly. So adobe really has no reason not to support linux.

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Aug 25, 2013 Aug 25, 2013

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ALL of the major VFX software houses produce Linux versions of their main software: The Foundry (Nuke, Mari, Katana), Autodesk (Maya, Smoke, Flame), SideFX (Houdini). Major VFX shops already have Linux pipelines (Framestore, DNeg, Cinesite, ILM, Weta).

There is a weird split in Linux software, there's free software, and there's very high-end very expensive software. What's missing is exactly mid-range software such as Adobe, destop publishing and a non-linear editor.

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Sep 09, 2013 Sep 09, 2013

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I've always worked in a Mac studio, however, there's a growing distaste for Apple lately. No designer is willing to move to Windows, however Linux is a perferred solution for many.

The only thing keeping us here is Creative Suite. And now that Cloud is going to force our hand to upgrade to 10.8, or 10.9… I'm extremely worried and will have to look at alternatives to the Suite unless Adobe does something.

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Sep 09, 2013 Sep 09, 2013

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Ryan_AcceptableUnusedNam3 wrote:

I'm extremely worried and will have to look at alternatives to the Suite unless Adobe does something.

I hope you won't waste any more time NOT looking for alternatives because Adobe is "NOT GOING TO DO SOMETHING" and you should not be living in a cloud cuckoo land waiting for somebody to do something for you.

If you have read the 52 posts before you, then you should know that there aren't any good alternatives and so the life has ended for people like you here with Adobe CC forced upon the headless chickens of this planet.

If you are using Adobe products for business then why are you complaining about CC?  You have to use it for your job; PERIOD.  No IFS or BUTS here.  Just start using it and be happy or some educated people might say be gay.

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Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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I am a 2nd year IT student and have been using Ubuntu for some time now after coming to Linux from M$ and even trying Mac OSX - none have compared to Ubuntu/Linux/Unix (even though Mac OSX is built using Unix, it's still another wrapper and it offers none of the benefits due to Apples restrictions.) It takes a while to learn to use a Linux system, but it takes just as long to learn Windows for the first time! The only difference being that we were introduced to Windows very early and as such we adopted Windows no problem because it's "what everyone knows and uses". I feel that our society is built on nothing but double standards. Here are some examples:

Currently, some 80%+ of super computers in the world are running Linux! M$ doesn't even come close to being able to compete with Linux in terms of stability, security and speed and Windows 8 was a flop. (Get your panties out of a bunch and stop looking at sales figures; in terms of GETTING WORK DONE, Windows is useless now. Oh, and Windows 8 has a built in back door for the NSA. If you don't believe me, Google it and you'll see that Germany leaked the information.)

Some more than 60%+ OF ALL INTERNET WEBPAGES are being delivered to Windows via servers running Linux! (Apache)

Many companies also use Linux to code software for Windows!

Google mostly uses Linux in their server farms. Why? Because Linux is the NINJA MASTER of stability and reliability. (Seriously, have you ever tried to update a M$ Server?????)

Now the double standard:

If Linux is the standard in terms of Internet backbone infrastructure and Web Servers OS, why wouldn't any company want to adopt Linux versions of their software? Everyone, even M$, knows that Linux is poised to anhialate Windows out of the workplace. Windows 8 appears to be an OS built for play. Mac OSX is unusable due to Apple restrictions. Oh and the fact that it "has to run on a Apple hardware" - not really but we'll let them think that

My point is, any company (Hey, Adobe!) that shuns Linux, is clearly going down the same rabbit hole M$ will, and is, going down. Linux users WILL PAY FOR QUALITY SOFTWARE!!! What is so hard to understand about that? Clearly we all love Steam for coming to Linux just go online and look at all the praises they are getting. Not to mention they tapped into a source of revenue no one else has tapped! Adobe, you would be wise to listen to your Linux customers. Listen, or get left in the past like M$ with your pride and a useless product.

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Sep 23, 2013 Sep 23, 2013

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http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/

I'm just going to drop this here and say you guys are literally the only reason I have left to use Windows.

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Sep 24, 2013 Sep 24, 2013

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I am a Creative Cloud subscriber going on 1+ years, and I need this suite to run on Linux.  I am tired of dealing with Windows 8's split personality.  It cannot make up its mind whether it is a tablet or a PC.  I don't want to buy a Mac because I build my own computers to full capacity for video editing.  Also, all the other work I do in regards to web development and video production is on Linux.  My web server is Linux, so it's much easier to work on Linux locally as well.  I don't like dual booting, multiple VM windows, etc.  It's just not productive.  If this doesn't change soon, I will start looking for alternatives and cancel my subscription.  I've been using Lightworks for video and it works pretty well.  For graphics I'll just have to find something to take its place, maybe a 3d rendering software program.  Thanks for listening.

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Sep 24, 2013 Sep 24, 2013

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Try Lightworks as an NLE.  Be sure you have a workflow set up before using it for an actual project.

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Sep 24, 2013 Sep 24, 2013

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life-examined wrote:

If this doesn't change soon, I will start looking for alternatives and cancel my subscription. 

How soon do you want this to change?  It is pretty easy to change this to satisfy you. Is 25 years OK with you?

People have waited for Linux to mature for so long that another 25 years shouldn't be a problem for these users.

Somali Pirate here taking a vacation from hard and sometimes very dangerous work at sea.

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Sep 24, 2013 Sep 24, 2013

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Somali.Pirates wrote:

life-examined wrote:

If this doesn't change soon, I will start looking for alternatives and cancel my subscription. 

How soon do you want this to change?  It is pretty easy to change this to satisfy you. Is 25 years OK with you?

People have waited for Linux to mature for so long that another 25 years shouldn't be a problem for these users.

Somali Pirate here taking a vacation from hard and sometimes very dangerous work at sea.

Im not clear on your point, nor what is immature about linux, nor even how this pertains to the discussion. The issue is that you have an actually stable OS which is quickly approaching the same user base on desktops that mac has, without the aid of massive global advertising, physical stores, and pre-loaded at purchase based sales (ok, its started, but not like with mac/win), yet Adobe still doesnt support it. You have a large userbase here which would REALLY like to migrate to Linux, or has and takes rediculous measures just to accomidate Adobe. Whats worse, there are many good methods of running windows/mac programs under linux which require nothing from Adobe, and they worked fine in the past, but now with CC you dont have a set release which can be accomidated by these methods.

You dont have to like linux. Frankly, everyone who actually overcomes their xenophobia and tries it does, but thats not an issue. The fact is the linux userbase is rapidly growing, while Windows 8 has been met with fair to poor results, apple has been in its death spiral for some time now, and linux has already cornered the server and mobile world. Hell, Apple gave up making its own OS long ago and basically just skins and locks linux now. The userbase of Ubuntu alone on desktop is nearly that of Mac now, and Apple hasnt been the preferred graphics platform in most design studios for at least a decade. These users often Adobe users, and there is an overwhelming outcry to Adobe to make software compatible with their chosen OS which continues to be ignored. Nobody is saying you have to switch, were just saying wed like to. Frankly every reason expressed here NOT to release a linux version has been shot down as it comes from a lack of understanding of linux, and there has been plenty of closed source software (take steam and skype for example) which has been released on linux and done well, so its not like its uncharted territory.

The problem isnt risk or payoff, Adobe has a pre-positioned and vocal userbase requesting this and case studies to follow, the problem is change. If Adobe had not been making an Apple version all along, do you think they would start one now? Sure, the iDiots would complain publically for about a year, but IMO Adobe would be better served to drop the mac version and move the resources to Linux. Call it payback for bombing flash.

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Sep 24, 2013 Sep 24, 2013

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It would make my day if Adobe stopped developing for Macs. Apple destroyed a stable well developed web tool, Flash. All Apple resons were nothing but marketing hype because they did not want to pay Adobe royalties. Now we are force to use and immature web language that has little to now support and development tools are lack luster. I am CBT developer now and HTML5 has made our lives a night mare. With flash we had nice packaged swf files that contained all of the scripting files. Now we have javascript, html, and what ever else that makes the HTML 5 work scattered all over the place. So Yeah I am for them dropping Apple. Let Apple fend for it's self and we can watch them crumble as Andriod eats away their bread and butter the Iphone.

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Sep 24, 2013 Sep 24, 2013

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In all honesty, the only thing that killed Flash, was Flash. As an Android user, sure, I had a little fun poking the Apple kids with my ability to use flash on android, but it sucked. It was slow, and made for desktops. It wasn't a technology that could have been "fixed" to work for mobile either.

It died with the desktop, and it was Flash's own fault.

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Sep 24, 2013 Sep 24, 2013

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Action Script Two. yes. Action Script Three no. HTML 5 has to use Javascript to work. If you ever look at Javascript and Action Script 3 side by side you will see they are very similar. Action Script 3 would have worked just fine on mobile devices. I tested all of my Action Script three only sites on mobile devices and it worked just fine. Adobe shoudl have cut AS 2 a long time ago. AS 2 is partially to blame for Flash dieing. Apple bears the majority of the blame.

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Oct 01, 2013 Oct 01, 2013

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I've been a Mac user since the first days of OSX, when it won me over from Windows.  Today, I am so unhappy with the direction both OS's are taking it's not funny.  I am hoping I have bought my last Mac and that will only happen if my next computer is not a Windows computer.  (As much as I am disappointed with the direction Apple has gone since Steve Jobs passed away, I will never go back to Windows).  So like so many others here I am desperate for Adobe to release their creative cloud on Linux.

Unfortunately, after reading this thread, I doubt that will ever happen.

I really think that both Mac and Windows are dying, and they are only supported by the fact that companies such as Adobe force people to stay on them.  But there is a wind of change, and the void will be filled.  Either Adobe will step up to the plate, or someone else will.

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Oct 01, 2013 Oct 01, 2013

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You are sitting here bashing Apple and trolling other participants on this thread but your name is Xeon64 - clearly, you are an Apple supporter seeing as you are either using or have used Apple's go-to processor for their Mac Pro lines. Even if you are using this processor on a home-built rig, you are still using Apple's go-to processor and in some morbid way, there must be a reason why you both thought to choose this particular processor (even though I already know why you would choose this processor). So either you're really moronic or you have no idea what you are talking about. Also, Flash was and has been dead LONG before HTML5 was around. Flash has always, and by always I most certainly mean always, been flawed and very buggy. Actually, Flash has caused as many computer failures as the not-so-friendly hackers deciding you no longer need this computer. Simply because there is a learning curve to learning HTML5, and it won't be the same as Flash, does not give you the right to bash another company for deciding they are no longer going to rely or support Flash. Even if your theories are correct, why did Google abandon Flash for Android? I'll tell you why - because both Google and Apple told Adobe to build an extremely stable Flash version for mobile and Adobe NEVER delivered - hence the new standard: HTML5.

And please don't even get me started on Java... talk about a free-for-all back door to your computer... Can anyone say security flaws? - But of course, we all need Java in order for our web applications to run.

AS3 is Adobe's way of counteracting HTML5 so no kidding it works great!

Please... you fail.

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Oct 01, 2013 Oct 01, 2013

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You are sitting here bashing Apple and trolling other participants on this thread

no he wasn't.

clearly, you are an Apple supporter seeing as you are either using or have used Apple's go-to processor for their Mac Pro lines. Even if you are using this processor on a home-built rig, you are still using Apple's go-to processor and in some morbid way, there must be a reason why you both thought to choose this particular processor (even though I already know why you would choose this processor). So either you're really moronic or you have no idea what you are talking about.

wow, what an off topic leap. Seriously, how do you get all that from his user-name? I smell an agenda.

Also, Flash was and has been dead LONG before HTML5 was around. Flash has always, and by always I most certainly mean always, been flawed and very buggy. Actually, Flash has caused as many computer failures as the not-so-friendly hackers deciding you no longer need this computer. Simply because there is a learning curve to learning HTML5, and it won't be the same as Flash, does not give you the right to bash another company for deciding they are no longer going to rely or support Flash.

Flash got its major hit when iOS dumped support for it, which was technically before HTML5, yes, but was in anticipation of HTML5 which was nearly set. Flash has been flawed and buggy as a programming platform BECAUSE IT WASNT A PROGRAMMING PLATFORM. It evolved into one from a vector graphics platform, and as such had about what you would expect as far as a really poorly structured language. AS2 was an abstraction layer, and AS3 was a complete re-write. Thats why AS2 wasnt really any better, ran poorly, etc, and AS3 was (is) solid. The problem with AS3 is not AS3, its that the very nature of flash is to let people who have very little knowledge of programming write a program. Thats why there are tons of really crappy flash apps out there, not because AS3 is flawed, but because the developers arent real developers. I can't see how flash has actually FAILED a computer, crashed, sure, but failed? similar to a major hack victim? get real. The learning curve on HTML5 is really not an issue. I mean seriously, if you cant climb that curve stick to drawing. The issue isnt that its not the same as flash either, its that you now need several technologies (btw, javascript is not any better with bugs, performance and battery usage, and far worse from a structural and compatability standpoint) to do what flash was able to do 10 years ago. Honestly, take a look at what "new and cool" things people are coming up with for CSS/html5/JS, you could do this with flash alone YEARS ago. The death of flash as a website platform set back web capabilities a decade. And yes, everyone certainly has the right to bash Apple (especially on an Adobe forum, which, again, nobody did) for using its temporary success to bomb a well-set standard, set back the industry over a decade, torpedo companies, develpers, and jobs, and force a large part of the web to re-build itself. Oh, and flash runs very well on modern phones, 5 years ago there were issues, but today's phones are actually able to handle decent technologies now. Its a resource issue, and the decision came down to Apple designing a phone, then making sure it can run everything well by destorying anything it couldn't. Its Jobs shaping the internet around his device, which is now obsolete, but of course were still stuck with the fallout.

why did Google abandon Flash for Android?

Google didnt, they dont include the plugin as standard because its not a standard anymore, but thats far from iOS BLOCKING flash unless you jailbreak their phones. This of course voids the warrenty and requires some level of tech comfort, which means that it would never happen on a large enough scale to matter. With android all you have to do is install the plugin, easy peasy and it comes standard installed on most other browsers.

And please don't even get me started on Java...

Please dont. Android is written in Java, so your points are a bit confused here. Perhaps you should plot out the argument in your head before you type.

AS3 is Adobe's way of counteracting HTML5 so no kidding it works great!

Thats odd, since AS3 came out in 2006, and HTML5 came out at the end of 2012. Yeah, 6 years LATER. So..... But it was interesting that you conceed that AS3 works great. Perhaps keep that in mind and re-read your entire post.

All this iRage stupidity and Jobs propaganda aside, did you happen to notice that this is NOT a flash or iOS thread? Did you notice that nobody actually bashed your precious Apple or trolled anyone (except, of course, you)? This thread is about the Adobe user base begging Adobe to realase tools on a linux platform. It's long overdue, has trememdous support, and like it or not it's true that win/mac is failing while linux is on a steady rise. Linux now has about half the desktop userbase as the admittedly small Apple share (from what can be measured, actually read previous posts for why that spec likely WAY low) and has a sweeping majority of mobile and server users, yet Adobe has stayed the course with Mac and refuses to even discuss a linux version.Many of us have either dropped Adobe service all together (like myself) or go through rediculous work-arounds just to use their software while being free to use the OS that works best for us.

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Oct 04, 2013 Oct 04, 2013

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Actually, yes, he was bashing Apple by saying Adobe should dump OSX and develop for Linux instead - Seriously? OSX IS LINUX WITH A PRETTY GUI. And why should they dump all that work? Leave the platform be and simply make a new version strictly for Linux. Which shouldn't be that hard considering they are basically doing that for OSX already.

While I may have assumed and implied many things by his username, you cannot deny the irony in writing a post to bash Apple while his name is Xeon64... You don't find that a little funny at all?? Either way, you are correct. It was not ok of me to assume things based off of his username seeing as Xeon is actually made by Intel and, well, you see where I'm going with this.

I'm still confused by your comment about the integrity of Flash - Flash actually got it's first major hit when iOS dumped flash BECAUSE ADOBE COULD NOT MAKE FLASH STABLE! Jobs only decided to dump Flash after Adobe could not deliver a steady and stable mobile version of Flash. Besides, if Apple is such a mediocre user base, then how was Apple able to take down flash by simply not allowing it on its mobile platform? Flash is still unstable... and the industry may have been set back "a decade", but it was for a more promising standard than Flash. This type of thing happens in EVERY INDUSTRY. Sometimes, people make mistakes and invest in a standard, only to find that the standard is then flawed. HTML5 is more promising than Flash because it makes you actually be a devloper instead of just another computer user with a mouse trying to put together a Flash application.

Google actually did dump Flash - go ahead and try to download Flash "Plug-In" from the Play Store. The ONLY reason why you still see Flash content with the ability to run in Android is because Google decided to keep Android open source and thus allows developers of web browsers and such the ability to embed Flash. Even youtube is potentially being fully converted to HTML5 with this opt-in trial by Google http://www.youtube.com/html5 So please, tell me how Google has NOT dumped Flash?

Ummm... Android may be written in Java but Android is actually using LINUX. I'll say that again, ANDROID. IS. USING. LINUX. Hence its open source nature and also why Android has the ability to run full copies of Ubuntu. Oh yeah, and Ubuntu Touch which actually started by using Android Linux Kernels and Drivers. I think it may be time you get real. Besides, you're arguing about Java when you know virtually ALL DEVICES must run Java. At least Apple allows you the option of either having it or not having it installed on your system, as does Linux. Get over it. Java is here to stay, unlike Flash. And any WELL WRITTEN program will work flawlessly written in Java...

AS3 may have came out before HTML5, but HTML5 in conjunction with XHTML are way more workable than AS3. While you may not be able to do animation with HTML5, the major difference between the two is that HTML5 is open, while Flash is more closed and proprietary. It would be my wish that HTML5 and Flash would become more friends than enemies, because if they played well with each other, we could really see some "cool, new stuff."

iRage? Please. You're assuming I'm a die-hard Jobs and Apple supporter.. Hmmm, don't I remember you scolding me about that earlier in your post? Yeah I think it was something about having an agenda. It sounds like you may have one too... I have already said Windows is flailing for its life back after Windows 8 and Apple is in a time of transition from Jobs to Cook (I think they'll be back in no time). Windows is dying fast. Who else makes a multi-billion dollar empire and then leaves it like Gates? Someone who knows if he's captain much longer he's going down with the ship. So, while I type this from my Ubuntu 13.04 laptop, I'll comfortably know that I have a head-start on the future of computing.

Oh, one last thing. Did you happen to notice that while this may be a thread for Linux and CS, a majority of the posters before me were actually having a discussion about Apple and why Adobe doesn't leave them? Could have something to do with the way my post was written. Also, could we please stop with the iRage and iFail - seriously the i stands for intelligent; 2007 called and wanted its joke back < ha ha for Windows!

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Oct 04, 2013 Oct 04, 2013

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First of All Xeon Processors have been used in the PC world and Linux world long before Apple Ever put one in a Workstation. There is no substitute processor for power users with Adobe software. A gaming processor will not cut it when you start to render Video, work with massive Photoshop files, and start using huge amounts of memory. I have been using Dell Precision workstations and managing Dell servers for over ten years. All of which use Xeon processors. So I do not know where you came up with the though that Xeon processors are an Apple thing. Apple adopted the Xeon processor because it was the closest thing they could find to replace the G5 PowerPC processor.

Also. OS X is not Linux with a fancy GUI. OS X runs on top of  Darwin. Darwin is an opensource BSD Unix os developed by Apple that can trace it's origin all the way back to the original Unix code from 1969.

Linux was inspired by MINIX and Unix, but Linux and GNU code was written from scratch in the late 80's early 90's. So it is not as simple as just porting the Mac Version for Linux.

I have worked with Both HTML5 and ActionScript three. There is very little difference between the two other than one being opensource and the other being proprietary. There are also HTML5 tools in the works for None Developers. So very soon there will be poorly scripted buggy battery draining HTML5 all over the web. HTML5 is killing the Computer Based Training industry right now. It is full of bugs and is costing people their jobs. The CBT world is 90% or more Flash based and people are now wanting their existing flash based CBT to work on mobile devices and most out there can not make the conversion without completely rewriting the training and not having any tools out there to do it for the none developer but that is a whole differnet topic.

I still think Adobe should have done something to hurt Apple just like Apple hurt Adobe with bunk garbage marketing to those who know little about Flash Development. As I have said. My AS 3 sites work fine on Mobile devices when the plugin was still being developed.

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Oct 08, 2013 Oct 08, 2013

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Hi David and Ken, and everyone participating on this thread.

As the originator of this post, I thought I would chime back in

I recommend reading the following:

https://getsatisfaction.com/adobe/topics/adobe_creative_cloud_linux_ubuntu_user_walkout_scheduled_fo...

Take your likes and conversations there.  Please post the link info on your favorite social media site as well. 

The message we are getting from Adobe is, "you haven't given us a real financial reason to even consider Creative Cloud for Linux."  We've heard nothing but, "go somewhere else if you want to complain.", followed by radio silence, all despite over 22,000 views in 15 months.  That's an average of 50 per day, and given the increased SEO exposure, I'd recon it is more like 200/day today.

Let's give them a reason to worry.  If we get 10s of thousands of CC subscribers to pledge to cancel their subscription, all on the same day, they will at least have to talk about it.  If word gets out about a walkout, I'm sure it will affect Adobe's share value as the deadline approaches.

Pledge:

https://getsatisfaction.com/adobe/topics/adobe_creative_cloud_linux_ubuntu_user_walkout_scheduled_fo...

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Oct 18, 2013 Oct 18, 2013

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Hi Xeon,

Yes, that's what I meant by commenting that Intel meakes Xeon Chipsets and Intel is a universal computer components player that can be found in nearly all computers - speaking of Intel, how about those Haswell Processors eh?? Pretty promosing stuff Intel is doing. But AMD is also working on some pretty sweet stuff too - can we say Mantle?? We're already seeing a switch away from Windows DirectX11, even if it is a proprietary "OPEN" (Mantle is open source) switch, it's still a switch and now the folks behind Frostbite Game Engine have pledged to back it.

I would still argue that OSX is still Linux with a GUI seeing as both Linux and OSX can trace their origins back to UNIX and wether they were derived from two different flavors of UNIX they are still one in the same - That's why most things that work on LInux work on UNIX and why you see the two often paired together like "Linux/Unix" or vice versa. Either way, the core for Linux based CC applications has basically already been drafted thanks to OSX. Now it just needs a "Linux" overhaul.

I totally agree with you about Apple and Adobe and Flash - it's not fair to punish Flash because so many people tried to use Flash--were horrible at it--and gave it a bad name. If done right, any application written in whatever language will work perfectly. It's all about the DEVELOPER.

So, how about we shift the direction of this thread back to it's roots and why Adobe will not get the point that Linux users will pay for quality software even though we value open-sourced. If it's good and easy to use, it's worth paying for. Just please, put it on my platform of choice: Linux.

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Oct 18, 2013 Oct 18, 2013

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Love it! Thanks. What a great idea, possibly the most effective move yet. That said, the title says 'June 6', the body says 'September', consider fixing that as its going to cause  a bit of confusion.

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Oct 18, 2013 Oct 18, 2013

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Agreed. They have plenty of examples, Skype has done well on linux, as well as steam. Hell, I buy steam titles for linux often. Some companies are even going back and re-coding old games for linux! Tides are turning...

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Nov 09, 2013 Nov 09, 2013

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He was talking about desktop market share, not market share in general.

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Nov 24, 2013 Nov 24, 2013

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I'm an Ubuntu user (12.04) who would be very interested in getting the Adobe Creative Cloud suite for my OS. I used to have the Creative Suite on Mac, but I've grown to dislike Apple for their general philosophies. This leaves me with Windows as the remaining option, which I'm really not into (closed system, bugginess, undesirable design). My favorite operating system is Ubuntu, for its stability and user-friendliness. I'm not even a programmer type; I'm a creative enthusiast and designer.

I do all of my gaming, browsing, music-listening, video-watching, chatting and emailing on my Ubuntu system. I find it lacks nothing having come from the OS X experience, and is overall a happy one.

With the release of Steam for Linux, as well as the Humble Bundles, I think this shows that Linux users are willing to pay for software (and in Humble Bundle's case, even more than the other OSes sometimes).

With Ubuntu striking out on their own from the rest of the Linux community, with their new display server (Mir), as well as their foray into mobile and TV, it seems like they are making themselves a targetable brand and platform. Ubuntu is also becoming more polished, and I'm eagerly looking forward to their 14.04 release in 2014.

If Adobe offered the Creative Cloud for Linux, I think we could see many potential Linux users migrate from Windows and OS X.

I, for one, would be looking forward to it!

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