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November 14, 2021
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Creative Cloud Installer breaks Internet connection

  • November 14, 2021
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Hello,

I have the new macbook 14" and want to install the creative cloud app. however, during the installation, it kills my internet connection and I can't do anything. only after I quit the installation, the internet comes back.

I did multiple tests. such as restarting the router, rebooting my macbook etc. The internet always breaks during the installation and comes back when I abort.

Does anyone know how to resolve the issue?

8 replies

Jeffrey_A_Wright
Community Manager
Community Manager
March 7, 2022

Thank you, everyone, for your public posts on the difficulties you encounter with disrupted Internet access while updating Adobe applications. The inability to smoothly complete the update process can be frustrating and is a significant roadblock from using the applications to complete your creative projects.

 

I have locked this public discussion as the variety of people interacting in this discussion, and the different membership and network types, will not lead to a solution being discovered for everyone. The solution for the individual using Photoshop CC on their home network will be different from someone using a Creative Cloud for Enterprise membership on a network managed by an organization.

 

We do want to see these disruptions resolved, so please utilize the following resources depending upon the type of Creative Cloud membership you are using:

 

Creative Cloud - Individual

 

Creative Cloud Individual memberships are designed for people with unrestricted access to the computer and network they are using the computer on. The following documents can be helpful to resolve network configuration errors:

 

 

To contact our support team for assistance with any configuration errors, please begin a secure chat session at https://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html?rghtup=autoOpen. We will also encourage you to download and run the CC Log Collector Tool from http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/cc-log-collector.html. The log files will be automatically uploaded and available if an additional investigation into the cause of the disruption is necessary.

 

Creative Cloud for Team or Enterprise memberships

 

Creative Cloud for Team and Enterprise membership is designed for organizations. If you have a Creative Cloud for Team or Enterprise membership, please make sure you work with your Creative Cloud plan administrator regarding any errors you observe with the update process. One of the benefits included with both membership types is deploying updates over the local network.

 

Please see the following documents for information on the deployment process:

 

 

Both Enterprise and Teams memberships include access to elevated support designed to answer questions related to those membership types. You can find information on how to access the premiere support included with both memberships at:

 


Our goal is to have a smooth experience downloading, updating, and using your Adobe applications. Please get in touch with us using the proper method for your membership type. We look forward to hearing from you and apologize for any inconveniences you have encountered.

 

Please bookmark Adobe Creative Cloud desktop app release notes to keep updated regarding important updates implemented to the Creative Cloud desktop application.

Participant
February 25, 2022

I'm also facing this issue since I swapped my Intel Macbook with an Apple M1 Macbook in December.

I followed the suggestion to get in touch with the customer support and provide the collected logs. 

Right now I'm in chat with "Felicy" who insists on getting remote access to my computer - for which I do not see any reason. My offer to provide the zxp file with the collected logs is not taken upon. wth? It seems highly suspicous to me...

Is there any other way I can interact with the support? maybe open up a ticket?

 

Jeffrey_A_Wright
Community Manager
Community Manager
February 25, 2022

Phil, thanks for contacting our support team to request assistance.  You can use the process listed in https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/customer-support-portal.html if you need to make any updates to support the case ADB-23416796-X7Y8.  I see you ended the current interaction from your end as you ran out of time.

 

I am a little confused, though, Phil.  From the chat transcript, you indicated that the installation for your Adobe applications is crashing while you try to apply updates on your new M1-powered Mac computer.   Are you also encountering problems with the Internet connection being disrupted for the local network while applying Adobe Creative Cloud updates as has been reported by Tomoe5C17, ChronoWolf, and others in this public forum discussion?

Participating Frequently
February 25, 2022

Just for clarity... is it within policy to discuss the contents of private support conversations held between customers and support staff? I know that acknowledging if a person has or hasn't reached out might be okay, but if it is not stipulated in any EULAs or agreements that support transcripts can be shared by staff in a public forum, I would recommend avoiding sharing the contents of those support interactions to ensure the customer's privacy is preserved.

Phrawst
Participating Frequently
February 8, 2022

Has happened to me twice now while installing / updating CC software. Only through dumb luck finding people on Netgear forums with the same issue did I discover the cause. I never would have put 2 and 2 together on this one, even though I'm a huge computer nerd. I've never seen something this ridiculous happen before.

 

Fix yo ish Adobe.

PhilHW
Participant
February 14, 2022

Could you provide a link to the discussion or describe what the issue actually is. Is there a fix, or is it just completely incompatible with netgear equipment?

Phrawst
Participating Frequently
February 15, 2022

Reddit thread on the discussion:
https://www.reddit.com/r/orbi/comments/snqibt/rbr750_crashing_during_large_downloads/

Netgear Support Thread:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-WiFi-6-AX-and-WiFi-6E-AXE/RBR750-dropping-internet-connection-over-ethernet/td-p/2128342

From what I gather here, this is not restricted to just netgear equipment and ONLY occurs during large file downloads from Creative Cloud. The second part I can confirm. I download games that are 100+GB with no issues, but any sizeable Adobe download crashes the router.

Participating Frequently
January 27, 2022

Encountered the same thing yesterday (Creative Cloud apparently taking down my router) and decided to do my due diligence and thoroughly test the scenario.

First was my home network. It's a fiber optic connection (1gbit/1gbit) which comes into the apartment via an enterprise Cisco Systems router. Every time Creative Cloud attempts to download any of the Adobe apps, it stops at around 70% and crashes the router. The entire network goes down while the router does a hard reset (takes about 5 minutes to do this). After which point the internet connection restores and Creative Cloud attempts to resume the download. Every time the download resumes, the internet connection will remain up until Creative Cloud re-attempts the download, where it will crash the router and cause it to hard reset again.

After doing multiple tests (including ensuring nothing else except the computer running Creative Cloud is hooked into the router) I have been able to reproduce the issue in 100% of cases where Creative Cloud will be downloading an App or App update at the time in which the router dies and performs a hard reset. Shutting down Creative Cloud restores the router's stability. I tested this stability with Creative Cloud closed by deliberately maxing out my 1 gigabit connection with multiple downloads (from a data intensive application like Steam for example) and the router remained online and stable. However, when I booted up Creative Cloud again and downloaded an App (After Effects 2022 for example) the router died and hard reset again.

Pretty conclusive, however, I wanted to dig deeper.

The next day I went into my workplace/studio which has a robust enterprise-level cable connection with full-enterprise infrastructure. A handful of us use the Adobe and Creative Cloud suite. I started Creative Cloud and attempted to update one of the Apps... a few minutes later, the entire office/studio's internet went down, causing everybody to go offline! Once again, Creative Cloud had crashed the router. Thankfully, I warned our IT guy about this first. As soon as I closed Creative Cloud, the connection was restored to the studio. With IT's blessing, I performed another bandwidth intensive download of lots of data using another application and the connection remained solid. But, once again, I booted up Creative Cloud and the entire studio lost connection to the internet again because of the router being taken down.

That's 2 for 2. One in a home scenario on prosumer/enterprise-lite hardware with a fiber connection, and one of full studio enterprise gear with a cable connection.

Sounds to me like Adobe has some investigating to do, because this issue is pretty nasty.

Participating Frequently
January 30, 2022

I wanted to add that it happened again this evening. 3 days the network and internet service was working fine and stable (the same 3 days where I did not need to open the Creative Cloud app). This evening, there was an update for Photoshop, so I opened Creative Cloud and started the update. A few seconds later, boom, the network goes down and the router performs a hard-reset.

 

For additional context, we had the IT guy at our studio/workplace also investigate the issue... he is worried that it may be part of a greater security risk and is taking steps to report the situation to tech blogs for further investigation. Seems like Adobe might be up for a rude awakening soon if the issue turns out to be problematic.

Legend
January 30, 2022

Have you checked for firmware updates for the router? It seems clear this must be fixed by the router maker, and that if a router can be crashed by an application (even if it does foolish or malicious things) then the router is a security weakness.

Participant
December 15, 2021

I have that very same issue.

My internet connection is via ADSL and I get about 13 Mbit downstream, but this is usually fine. OneDrive sync, Steam, no issues here.

It is only, singularly and reproducable the Adobe CC Update process that hogs all available bandwidth and makes the internet connection unusable for everybody in the house. Even the connection from my PC to the router via wired LAN is slow.

What the hell is this thing doing? Most applications may use the available bandwidth for downloads, but slow down when other devices oder apps have connections. Not the Creative Cloud, though.

 

This is really annoying, especially when I have to dig for ten minutes what app is doing this, only to find that it's CC which is not running, not on Windows autostart and which supposedly has automatic updates turned off.

Participant
November 23, 2021

Yup, same here. I noticed from earlier topics that some advice was get a faster internet connection! Well I have a fast connection but Adobe just simply eats whatever is available. Any quality updater will throttle itself so as not to impact the user, or indeed anyone else using the same router. My only answer has been to disable auto updates and manually update when I know I'm going to be away, say just before going to sleep. But having to leave the PC switched on all night isn't exactly environmentally friendly. Having written downloaders myself this is not complicated. This software is not free, it's not cheap...please just get it sorted Adobe!

Participant
December 15, 2021

I've got the same problem today. I did not change anything regarding my connection. It was working fine and starting today I can not update (or have the desktop client runnung) without loosing the connection. It only occurs with CC. And yes...the CC Service ist not cheap! This is not acceptable.

Participant
November 23, 2021

Happening to me too, on PC, Windows 11. Installing or updating Photoshop or Illustrator kills my router. This looks to be a common issue as I see a lot of people reporting it. It only started for me in the past couple weeks. 
I have AT&T fiber. It kills my router whether I conect over ethernet or wifi, whether connected directly to the AT&T modem/router or the connected Orbi mesh. I even did a system reset and a fresh install of Photoshop did the same thing.

 

No other programs or large downoads do this. Only creative cloud.

Legend
November 23, 2021

If an app can completely kill (break rather than slow down) a network connection, then there's a fault in something. Possibly the router. I've had problems with specific apps like this, and upgrading the firmware of the router was the solution.


Here's a suggestion: if you see this problem please reply with 

- your ISP (AT&T in the last post)

- any routers you have in your house or office between you and the ISP

- the final router (often provided by the ISP)

The reason is, this sort of cataloguing often shows us a pattern.

Participant
November 23, 2021

Hi, here are the things you asked for:

  • ISP: AT&T, Fiber
  • Orbi RBK753 mesh system
  • ISP Router: Arris BGW210,  Software version: 2.14.5

 

I have connected my PC straight to the AT&T Modem to eliminate the Orbi from the equation, and get the same behavior. 

kglad
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 14, 2021

using a browser that allows popups and cookies, contact adobe support during pst business hours by clicking here, https://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html?rghtup=autoOpen
in the chat field (lower right), type AGENT
be patient, it can take quite a while to reach a human