What is the difference CS6 & CC Versions?

[Puff Bradley]

I use creative cloud now..have all my applications downloaded as CS6 (PS, ILL, FW and so on)...So what is the difference between the 2 versions? ShouldI download the CC version? New features and so on?

Thanks

[quasi Digi]

Hello,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there an option to have CS6 also if one subscribed to CC?

[Rajashree Bhattacharya]

Yes, you can go back to previous versions.

Creative Cloud for desktop

Download, install, update, or uninstall apps

Install a previous version of any Creative Cloud application

Regards

Rajshree

[quasi Digi]

Thank you very much Rajshree for your fast reply.

Sadly enough I do not find Encore in the list of previous versions. Can I have it with my CC subscription?

[Rajashree Bhattacharya]

Please check the steps in Encore CS6 not installed with Creative Cloud

Download, install, update, or uninstall apps

Regards

Rajshree

[quasi Digi]

Again, thank you al lot Rajshree. I am downloading the apps at the moment.

[Rajashree Bhattacharya]

Great!! Happy working with Adobe.

Regards

Rajshree

[Lon_Winters]

This thread is a bit old, but there have been some recent responses and I feel the subject deserves ongoing discussion.

I would like to start by saying that whether it’s in a classroom or some other type of self-learning, knowing at least the basic history of an application, the company and their role in the industry is important in the big picture scheme. I was late to the game and didn’t start learning HTML and related internet technologies until 2001. But it was still early enough that design and development tools were still young and evolving rapidly. Classroom learning wasn’t worthless, but much of what was taught had changed or even become obsolete by the time the final exams were given. Much has changed in the last fifteen years, but at least now things have settled down into more stable and predictable processes and methods.

Listing a comparison chart between CS6 versions and CC versions is valid, but there is more to it than just new or different features. CC represents, or at least is supposed to, represent a new way of doing things. Whether the new ways are better or not is largely subjective, but certain things do take hold and become the standard, and then can’t be avoided. That’s where the history comes in, to help appreciate these new ways and to help determine if they indeed are better or just repackaging the old ways.

There are many examples one can look to help understand this evolution. Let’s look at search engine optimization: I spent a lot of time learning the basics and implementing SEO techniques of certain sites that I launched. But I often see things that I don’t understand how they work or why they are used. For example, I did a Google search on a topic where this forum thread came up as a result. Now, if I landed on this thread by browsing the forums and selecting the discussion, I could probably easily parse the URL. The URL that led me here from Google contains 941 characters. It’s obviously some advanced and complex tracking techniques used by Google and/or Adobe. But it represents one more thing to take note of at the very least, evaluate it at some point and discover whether it’s something that I will eventually have to know just to keep up with the basics of SEO.

There are those of us who build web site and internet applications using programs and tools created by others. I have used and relied on third-party Dreamweaver extensions for both server- and client-side functionality. I use jQuery and other JavaScript libraries. Hats off to those on the cutting edge who develop those extensions and write the JavaScript. And to the open source community that for better or worse, have provided even more options through applications like Joomla and WordPress.

And there’s another major difference between the “legacy” CS programs and the new CC programs. The focus has shifted from server-side scripting ad middleware to client-side libraries. Dreamweaver server behaviors are now deprecated (if not totally eliminated altogether by now). Much has already been said about Adobe’s decision and rationale for this so I won’t rehash that here. At first, it seemed that the CC subscription model was necessary just for business reasons. Major version upgrades for the CS programs came out yearly and even at upgrade pricing were expensive. Some applications peaked with CS4 and others like Dreamweaver, with CS6 as HTML 5 became the standard. I only speculate here, that sales dropped off as the continuing upgrades became cost prohibitive and just plain unnecessary. I even wonder to what degree these “new ways of doing things” with CC programs are also another way to attract and retain customers. I don’t think it’s a major revelation that the practice of incremental upgrades is just the way of the industry. Personally, I believe it’s a necessary evil, but the practice has gone too far at time (Still, IMO). All the major players have taken part. Microsoft, since Windows 95. Apple. Google. Then, each OS of application upgrade seemed to need more resources and the cycle continued. Often, it is true that upgrades that aren’t really needed can be skipped, and often are – but the psychological influence of wanting the latest and greatest is rather powerful and hard to resist. Apple proved this – while it can be argued that their products actually were superior, it was the marketing the culture they established that was the primary draw. This was especially true with the release of the iPhone and the new yearly models. But even when we decide we don’t need to upgrade, we fine that our clients and vendors have, and we then have to upgrade, or lose the business.

I have/had several sites created in legacy middleware that still required maintenance and need the functionality of certain extensions. Financially unable to upgrade the extensions to CC versions, I was able to convert MXP to ZXP and install them using the CC EM. I got error messages and the extensions did not appear in the list – however, they actually did install and worked in DW CC, minus some of the functionality. This went on for several months until one of the find people here pointed out that CS6 was an option in CC! So I do have both versions of DW and PS installed and use both depending on the need. And there is no conflict; both versions peacefully co-exist on my system. It would be nice to be able save a backup copy of the CS6 installers for when they are finally relegated to the obsolete bin from the legacy pile.

So despite my complaints, I do like the CC program. I use mostly DW and PS, and now that I have a 64 bit system, I can fire up video editing again. My interest in Flash has waned, and the other programs are just sitting there waiting for me to dig into. With these tools and the ability to build mobile apps, I had thought this would be the next logical step for web developers, but I’m not seeing this. It seems that apps are still mostly created by software engineers and web people have moved on to the newer internet technologies. And now with CC 2015 versions out, I will probably upgrade my 2014 versions – and check out the new features. I think the next thing on my list is getting into the “portfolio” mobile apps, created publications with InDesign or maybe a simple app based on Dreamweaver. And while I’m not holding my breath, it really would be nice to create iOS apps without actually needed a MAC to create the app installation file. But I suppose I wouldn’t blame them for wanting to hold on to something exclusively – after all, the relented and eventually allowed apps created by third-party development tools into the app store (at first, they only allowed apps developed by the Apple SDK.

  Thanks for reading if you have gotten this far. I think it’s time I launch a blog if I keep writing such long forum posts. Even my emails are wordy. I come from the baby boom, reading generation and while I appreciate the brevity of Twitter and facebook status updates, I would like to see the return to the written word wherever it may fit into the electronic ecosystem.

[whatalotofrubbish]

Beware if you have a slow internet connection when using CC. It will take ages to do any productive work, compared with the CS version.

[ProDesignTools]

This is a frequent misconception. The CC desktop applications do not require a continual Internet connection to run or use... They only need an occasional quick online check to revalidate your monthly subscription, but otherwise can run fully offline.

Please see the reply above discussing common Creative Cloud myths.

[whatalotofrubbish]

Perhaps they should have said that when they switched to subscriptions, and effectively increased the cost by a large amount. My CS6 includes at least 6 programs that I have never looked at in depth. If they had set up a branch of CC for just Dreamweaver and Fireworks, at a reduced cost, that would have been enough for me to take out a subscription. The other programs just sit on my drive occupying space. As my sister in law would say - they are "not worth the calories".

Pity the people running Adobe don't listen to their customers. If they did they would have had lots of my cash.

Perhaps a million of us CS6 users have never taken up the CC system, but it would be interesting to have the official results from Adobe's financial or sales people. As one writer said above, there comes a time when upgrades for upgrades sake are un-necessary. I think that Dreamweaver hit its peak at CS5, which is what I mainly use, as it covers lots of my web sites still. If I had known how CS6 would have reduced Dreamweaver's capabilities, I would certainly never have bought it.

As an aside, have you ever tried to spell check the word "Dreamweaver" on this site? It lists some awful spellings.

Par for the course.

Good coding and a happy 2017

[ProDesignTools]

whatalotofrubbish wrote:

Perhaps a million of us CS6 users have never taken up the CC system, but it would be interesting to have the official results from Adobe's financial or sales people.

Here they are:

Adobe Creative Cloud Adoption Grows to Over 8 Million Paid Subscribers

[whatalotofrubbish]

Adobe Creative Cloud Adoption Grows to Over 8 Million Paid Subscribers

QED as they said at my school. So I was correct. After 4 years they have still dropped over 4 million users.

Just how they managed to survive over that period reflects the massive charges that they make for the subscription system, compared to what they used to charge for the original one.

Lets face it, things don't really change so fast nowadays that one needs to have continuous updates to software. Its a bit like TomTom software - the odd street may get added, but a revision is not needed more than once in a 4 year period. Unless you are a wagon driver, and there will be a few of these in Adobe's customer base.

All that happened with the subscription service was that Adobe divested itself of millions of small companies and one man bands like me, who could not and still cannot justify spending £400 to £500 a year on changing their software.

Any reasonable company would look at things again and make an offer to these old customers, most of whom are probablky still using CS6, to provide an update for a one off fee of £400 or so. Lots would then take it up if they have not already found alternative software.

[Bob Howes]

I'm not sure you can count those four million as "lost" customers.  I don't know about graphics-based stuff but on the Audition forums we still get questions from users about much older versions--even Audition 1.0 and 1.5, before Audition was even part of the CS,  aren't that uncommon.  (I won't mention the occasional Cool Edit Pro question we get.)

The thing is that people using versions that old would have shown up as part of the 12 million but they've not paid a penny to Adobe for upgrades in 15 years or so. 

On the other hand, the 8 million subscribers are paying a regular sum to Adobe--it must make things a lot easier for the accounts department.

Me?  I'm not personally a fan of the subscription system.  I did purchase updates but only when I found new features that I wanted.  However, subscriptions are becoming the way of the world.  Avid is moving that way with their products and it seems likely Microsoft are doing the same thing with Windows 10.

[ProDesignTools]

Hmm, you have a funny way of characterizing success... By virtually every measure in the industry, Adobe's transition to Creative Cloud has been widely hailed as a major success, surprising a lot of skeptics and even exceeding the company's own original expectations. Never before (not even with CS6), have so many users upgraded and been running the same single release of Adobe software, which makes the platform all the more powerful.

As noted in the posts above, there are thousands of new features and improvements in CC 2017 as compared to CS6 from five years ago... If you don't know or care what you're missing, that's fine – but if the latest releases can help millions of customers get better work done faster, then time is money.

Take care.

[whatalotofrubbish]

ProDesignTools.

Is success ripping off customers? If the answer to this is yes then Adobe is very suucessful.

May well have been a success if you are a major company with endless budgets.

Macromedia made Dreamweaver a success  until Adobe bought it and started ripping everyone off. There are millions of people out there like you say still using CS6 disk version, and I bet if you search the web, in some of the backward countries like India and Africa you will find Adobe sites still selling CS6 on disk. I still have my Macromedia boxed sets and every update until CS6 on the shelf.

The subscription service has stopped most people like me who used to write web sites for charitable causes from being able to take it up.

I could afford to upgrade my Dreamweaver and Fireworks every three to 4 years, and make it work by obtaining extensions from others in between.

I assume from what you are sayingthat Adobe has incorporated the extensions intot he CC version?

Now I cannot afford to subscribe, and that's a big downer for Adobe and for many charities and not for profits that no longer have web writing people available. I worked for nothing, but I cannot afford to give Adobe a banquet ticket into the bargain. Meal ticket perhaps.@

Greed begets Greed.

[ProDesignTools]

Ease up Friend... it sounds like you don't have the whole story. If the CC software is needed by a non-profit or charitable organization, then naturally Adobe provides significant discounts off the regular price. Check out TechSoup, which is one official source for this.

[whatalotofrubbish]

Well thats nice to know.

Not very well advertised.When the cloud first started I looked into Adobe's charitable side and it was only available in the USA. I cannot see on the link page if this retriction still applies. Are you aware if it is available world wide, and if so do the prices change like they do normally, where its cheap in America and more expensive elsewhere?

[ProDesignTools]

It's worldwide.

"Eligible Organizations

A nonprofit and non-governmental organization in the United States must be a qualified 501(c)(3) public charity as recognized by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).  Outside the United States, organizations must be qualified or registered as a public charity under the relevant local country’s laws (and where applicable hold a tax exempt certificate), or if no such local laws exist, then organizations must be the equivalent of a U.S. public charity."

https://helpx.adobe.com/enterprise/help/non-profit.html

[whatalotofrubbish]

In that case I apologise for my comments stated earlier in this post with regard to charities and not for profits.

When I followed the link you provided in an earlier post, and worked my way to the "do I qualify" page and started to complete the enrolement form, I was asked for my state. The only ones listed were American states. I live in the UK so I went no further.

I will pass the info to my charitable friends so they can take advantage of the scheme.

[ericolson]

This doesn't answer the question which is: what's the difference between the versions?  I have this question also.

[ProDesignTools]

The table in this article shows the differences between each individual version of CC (2018 vs. 2017 vs. 2015, etc), including all the new features added to CC since CS6:

Compare Versions: What’s New in Adobe CC 2018? Here Are the Differences vs. Prior Releases

[lauram56311691]

Can I use a CS6 textbook to teach Creative Cloud?

I'm having trouble finding good Adobe textbooks that combine apps (PS/Ill/InD, Premiere/Audition/AE, or Animate/AE) but are specific to CC...

Example: Video Collection Revealed

ISBN-13: 978-1133815006,

ISBN-10:1133815006

[Test Screen Name]

To learn maybe, though there's a lot of new stuff you won't meet. To teach, surely not.

[Texno]

I have Adobe cc acc. In my business computer and on my home computer I use the last version of Cs6 Creative Production suite that was purchased outright. I am insulted that my home computer with Cs6 must be subject to ongoing varification requests and suggestions of reloading software which is inconvienent and time consuming. 

These ongoing provacations by Adobe need to be checked, maybe even tested by class action or protest.

[Brenda L. Vinci]

Yes same thinkgs happen for me.