FAO: Osgood

[Nancy OShea]

You're going to LOVE (sic) this web site.  Be sure to scroll up & down very fast for maximum effect .

The Art of FLIGHT​

Nancy

[paulk7737514]

So that's what they're doing to replace Flash websites nowadays...

[pziecina]

Luckily enough you do not get the scroll on mobile devices, but then looking at the page on a desktop, definitely the future.

I think I will recommend it to every Dw user

[osgood_]

A typical case where I see no value being added what so ever. To me it's just another poor solution in the mold of stack em high, sell em cheap. Stuff like this makes we want to vomit, its a case of trying too hard when less is usually more. I'm not keen on the background graphics, they look cheap. Not really my kind of bag but I guess someone must like it and think its well produced and  clever.

[ALsp]

I hope whoever designed the page is not a pilot. Makes a case for barf bags.

[Nancy OShea]

My 1st impression was total motion sickness.  I don't care how old or young you are, that can't be a good thing, can it?

N

[osgood_]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Nancy+OShea  wrote

My 1st impression was total motion sickness.  I don't care how old or young you are, that can't be a good thing, can it?

N

I don't know, maybe we are just old gits. I'd like to think I still have the ability to determine what is good and what is bad but as the saying goes 'one mans meat is another mans poison', always has been when it comes to making critical judgement of anything. You just gotta hope that your clients views are similar to that of your own...........otherwise there isn't a hope in hell the relationship is going to work out well. Either that or you have to hope you support the same football team, then anything looks good.

[cdeatherage]

I saw something like this demonstrated in a Noble Desktop seminar maybe 5 or 6 years ago. Full site coded in one HTML page that shifted to selected content. Don't recall it weaving through the air, though. Just auto-scrolling horizontally or vertically depending upon which menu item was clicked on. Closer to, but more sophistocated than, the real-estate-hogging-information-deficient-one-pager templates currently popular in WordPress.

Chris

[osgood_]

cdeatherage  wrote

I saw something like this demonstrated in a Noble Desktop seminar maybe 5 or 6 years ago. Full site coded in one HTML page that shifted to selected content. Don't recall it weaving through the air, though. Just auto-scrolling horizontally or vertically depending upon which menu item was clicked on. Closer to, but more sophistocated than, the real-estate-hogging-information-deficient-one-pager templates currently popular in WordPress.

Chris

I don't mind a bit of subtle scrolling, in one direction, up/down - as long as the scrolling does not become the main focal point of the entire website. Remember people go to a  wesbite mainly to get information, laid out in a clear, clean and logical fashion, not to be entertained like they were going to a circus or West End show. I think developers that need to use 'goofy' tactics are covering up for being bad developers and having little understanding of what is required. Unfortunately there are so many clients out there who seem to share their bad tastes.

[Jon Fritz]

To me, this site really has the feel of the "Look What I Can Do!" development approach.

Someone figured out something they, or (more likely) the client, thought was edgy or cool and took it to the nth, nausea inducing, degree.

The individual pages (once the spinning stops) aren't terribly offensive and show a basic understanding of some design principles, however they completely ignored mobile and it's unusable from an iPhone.

[osgood_]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Jon+Fritz+II  wrote

To me, this site really has the feel of the "Look What I Can Do!" development approach.

Someone figured out something they, or (more likely) the client, thought was edgy or cool and took it to the nth, nausea inducing, degree.

The individual pages (once the spinning stops) aren't terribly offensive and show a basic understanding of some design principles, however they completely ignored mobile and it's unusable from an iPhone.

I agree, unfortunately there are far too many developers with that agenda. But then again what do I know. If some silly client said I want a zooming, scrolling, sea-sick inducing page stuck up on the internet, with some dodgy background graphics and I have 5k to spend I would probably do it and shut my big mouth, maybe.

I've just been supplied 2 absolutely poo-poo (edited for Paula's benefit) pdfs by one of my clients, poorly designed. They want them up as flipbooks and pdfs on their website.  I could say no and the client walks away or I could keep the peace do it and take the money. I think I'm becoming too battle weary to argue the toss any longer. I've been doing that for the past 30 odd years.

[pziecina]

osgood_  wrote

I've just been supplied 2 absolutely poo-poo (edited for Paula's benefit) pdfs by one of my clients, ....

I think I'm becoming too battle weary to argue the toss any longer. I've been doing that for the past 30 odd years.

Thank you

The more I look at this job, the more I think,  'it time to quit'.

[osgood_]

pziecina  wrote

The more I look at this job, the more I think,  'it time to quit'.

I've already downed tools........I'm now officially on strike.........take that damn World..............you cant live without me, so there!

[pziecina]

osgood_  wrote

I've already downed tools........I'm now officially on strike.........take that damn World..............you cant live without me, so there!

LOL

What we need is a union, that stops clients asking us to do stupid things.

[cdeatherage]

I guess my "real-estate-hogging-information-deficient-one-pager templates currently popular in WordPress" was too subtle an indication that I am not a fan.

Chris

[osgood_]

cdeatherage  wrote

I guess my "real-estate-hogging-information-deficient-one-pager templates currently popular in WordPress" was too subtle an indication that I am not a fan.

Chris

Hands up, I'm guilty of producing a couple of these one page scrolling websites. In my defence though I don't think either were worthy of seperate pages as the client only provided about 100 words for each section.

It becomes a fine balance deciding how to produce solutions if there is too litte information or too much information. I'm happy if the movement is subtle and the user doesn't get shunted left/right/up/down randomly. There has to be some kind of logic so when you click a button you're not taken on some kind of disorientating rollercoaster ride. Including a 'back to top' button descibes what is going to happen, so you expect it.

[Nancy OShea]

So for contrast, here is a web site for Travis Rice's film.  Move your mouse around in the Panorama.

The Fourth Phase

Unlike the previous example in my OP, I think this site works.  Although I haven't checked it on a mobile device.

I have no problem with the ubiquitous 1-page web site providing it does what it needs to do.  Obviously if the client hasn't got much to say, a 5-10 pager makes no sense.

Nancy

[Jon Fritz]

The mobile version actually leverages the device's orientation to change the background image position.

Subtle and nifty compared to the first link you posted.

[osgood_]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Nancy+OShea  wrote

So for contrast, here is a web site for Travis Rice's film.  Move your mouse around in the Panorama.

The Fourth Phase

Unlike the previous example in my OP, I think this site works.  Although I haven't checked it on a mobile device.

I have no problem with the ubiquitous 1-page web site providing it does what it needs to do.  Obviously if the client hasn't got much to say, a 5-10 pager makes no sense.

Nancy

I think that's tastefully done, even the music.

I'm not keen on all the images scattered around when scrolling down, its too busy for my tastes. I think it comes together again once you hit the white area and the eye can focus again.

The problem is developers often attempt something which unless done well can look awful. I always stick to what I know I can do and try and do it well....ish.

[Nancy OShea]

osgood_  wrote

The problem is developers often attempt something which unless done well can look awful. I always stick to what I know I can do and try and do it well....ish.

You hit the nail on the head.  That's the main difference between pros and amateurs.  

[osgood_]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Nancy+OShea  wrote

osgood_   wrote

The problem is developers often attempt something which unless done well can look awful. I always stick to what I know I can do and try and do it well....ish.

You hit the nail on the head.  That's the main difference between pros and amateurs.  

I was going to add to my previous post:

EDITED. The composition of the layout actually looks better on a narrow screen where all those scattered images go into one cloumn, much neater and easer on the eye in my opinion. So yeah, a thumbs up from me.

[Nancy OShea]

cdeatherage  wrote

I saw something like this demonstrated in a Noble Desktop seminar maybe 5 or 6 years ago. Full site coded in one HTML page that shifted to selected content. Don't recall it weaving through the air, though. Just auto-scrolling horizontally or vertically depending upon which menu item was clicked on.

Chris

If we're thinking of the same thing, Chis, it was The Pawn Wine Co.  Links moved diagonally or up & down the way chess pieces move.   I still remember it because it was so different from anything else at the time. 

For a bit of nostalgia, the WayBack Machine still has it.  Obviously, not responsive.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090129120140/http://thepawn.com.au/

Nancy

[Jon Fritz]

Wow.

I just, wow.

I tried to look at the source after getting car sick from the scrollbar ride and it locked up my machine, twice.

Maybe a little warning next time to bring Dramamine?

[paulk7737514]

It's by a company called Brain Farm. Looks like they're leveraging drone photography.

The video won't play in Firefox on my machine.

[paulk7737514]

Nor does the embedded Twitter feed work.