Is Dreamweaver the next to go?

DW is pretty much useless at his point.

I am still surprised Dreamweaver is still well Dreamweaver. At least in the sense of its name, is it still Dreamweaver otherwise ;-) ? Sure it was once a flagship app (maybe still is) and the branding and marketing aspect is obvious. But I can only imagine Adobe still feels Macromedia remains a thorn in its side. I honestly figured by now it would not be called Dreamweaver still. They had to be happy to rebrand Flash to Animate. Not much left prominently from the Macromedia days, I often wonder what could have been had the merger never occurred. ;-)

I read through the announcement about Muse again, then read through a number of discussion regarding the discontinuation of Muse.

Given that the statement says

• Designers that are actively engaged in creating complex websites and applications are investing in UX design and prototyping skills while partnering with development teams to bring their designs to life.
• For simpler websites, we’ve seen the emergence of Do-It-Yourself (DIY) website creators that leverage customizable templates to quickly create responsive websites that can be easily modified by the designer or a client.

I'm a little confused, as to me Muse is nothing more than a paid for DIY website creation tool, and what is being said about Adobe Spark (the pre-release version) makes it also nothing more than a DIY website creation tool. So that part simply does not add up.

As for the first part of the reason given by Adobe that I quote. I read that as Adobe is going back to its roots, and catering for the larger team, in that they are talking about ux and prototyping being the designers role in web development.

So apart from my 'answer' of 'would it really matter', I find myself asking just where Dw fits in with the Adobe world view?

It is not being used by most Ps extract users, many smaller site developers do prototyping in the browser, (or live view), UX design is not really part of development for someone using bootstrap, (its a take it or leave it option), and in the announcement Spark is recommended for newsleters.

If Adobe is going back to its core product user, the Dw simply does not fit in.

@BenPleysier

I must be a little slow today, as I have only just realised who is asking the question .

I don't know if Dw cab is still going, but as you were/are a member, shouldn't you be telling us the answer?

Muse is/was free. It has little or no bearing on Dreamweaver because of that reason. It also is a very badly designed application. We explored it with a mind to doing extensions, and had a few good laughs. If Dreamweaver has retained anything from its Macromedia days it is that of a really good file/site management tool. It is also a container for powerful extensions that can make Dreamweaver, much better than what Adobe delivers. CS6 will be usable, at least on Windows, for a very long time, so the fact that Adobe has no clue how to evolve Dreamweaver is of little consequence... for now. The folks that regularly post on this forum are not typical Dreamweaver users and probably should be using other editors, if they are not already. But Muse, and the other free apps that Adobe has produced are nothing more than an institutional advertisement to show Adobe's altruistic side. Perhaps the people who run Adobe have not yet gotten the memo that free always comes with a cost... sometimes unexpectedly high.

As expected it's not a pretty sight over in the Muse Forum right now ....

EDIT: Yippie post moderation is back!

That is a surprising turn of events.

Or is it? Given that Adobe cant seem to wisely forecast past their nose what to do, focus on or develop. Muse, Edge, and on down the line of failed applications and workflow endeavors. So many hours, months years wasted repeatedly by Adobe. All the while their core flagship products sink into despair for the lack of any real innovation or keeping up with the times.

What the *@#$%;-) are they even doing ? Oh yeah thats right, collecting Cash Cloud payments, they no longer need to worry about things as long as the marketing works and enough people buy in.

Is Dw the next to go?

The question I would ask is, "does it make any difference"?

Adobe announced last year in a video conference that it intended to rationalise its product line-up, and concentrate on its core products. Reading the reasons why in the Muse announcement, the dropping of flash content and other Adobe 'product' plug-ins by browsers, add to that the steady demise of other Adobe web releated products, then all I can say is, "watching the development of Dw over the last few years, has been like watching a train crash in slow motion".

Dreamweaver is already dead for several years... most users use the old CS6, definitely not the last two versions (2017/2018).

For Adobe Muse and Business Catalyst I think the reasons for their closure is to be found in drastic changes at the web development level in recent years, WordPress has become the reference point (at least here in Italy), the companies themselves ask for it and most of them look for ready-to-use templates/websites.