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December 13, 2018
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Hi:

I am using Dreamweaver 6 and I am considering buying the latest CC version. Well, renting it I guess.

I don't own ANY subscription applications, because I don't agree with this model.

Now, having said that I am considering DW CC whatever......

What do I get for my $240 a year?

yeah, I see

Includes: 100GB of cloud storage, Adobe Portfolio, Adobe Fonts, and Adobe Spark with premium features

Do I get to download an application or am I stuck using an online version?

Depending on the answer above, do I have to store my files in the cloud, or can I store my files locally?

What is Adobe Portfolio, Adobe Spark, and where can I learn about the fonts?

To be honest, not really an Adobe fan, because finding anything on your site always seems to be a nightmare.

Frankly, I don't even expect an answer to these questions......

Great way to start, eh?

Thank you

Rich

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Correct answer Nancy OShea

#1 Creative Cloud is NOT cloud-based software. CC desktop apps install on your OS just the same as before.

See system requirements. Adobe Creative Cloud system requirements

#2 Work files are under your control. You may store them wherever you wish. The optional Cloud Stroage is useful when synchronizing with other devices or collaborating with people but it's not required that you use it.

#3 IMO, Creative Suite 6 is not better than CC (it's 9 versions behind). But if you find you need it for a particular project, you have access to it from your Creative Cloud Desktop app. I have 3 versions of DW installed on my machine. But I work with only 1 version at a time.

pziecina

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The discussion is now unlocked, the question is by whom?

pziecina

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All I would like to add to this discussion, is that this discussion -

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2401471

from 2 years ago, (even with a number of the posts removed, due to a forum mistake) appears to be still relevant.

We are going over and over the same themes in the forum, and the conclusions never change.

VL Branko

Inspiring

https://forums.adobe.com/people/VL+Branko wrote
So I understand that your real complaint is that Adobe should be such a complete system that extensions would be unnecessary. I can agree with that but, it seems, that will never happen. So we are therefor thankful for P7 and other extension makers.
Exactly what do you refer to when you say "Visual Studio Pro?"

You are correct in what I am saying, but as you say, 'it will never happen'. Mainly because to do so it would require a very good understanding of exactly what is required.

Regarding VS Pro -

If you read -

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/designers/designing-xaml-in-visual-studio?view=vs-2017

you will see that when creating Windows programs, (or apps) even MS has recognised that creating the UI and many of the components, a visual method of doing so is very helpfull. It is possible to use MS Blend to create web UI's if one knows what to add and remove. When MS first introduced Blend many programmers, (coders) did not want to use it, but now there are not many who do not use it.

Having the option to create UI's and components visually for web sites, would I think follow the same course, in that many would initially object, but after they had tried it, it would be a 'must have' method or feature. A lot of the functionality that Blend creates still requires coding knowledge in order to change how it works, so no one is left out. It becomes a collaboration or combining of skill sets.

pziecina wrote
https://forums.adobe.com/people/VL+Branko wrote
So I understand that your real complaint is that Adobe should be such a complete system that extensions would be unnecessary. I can agree with that but, it seems, that will never happen. So we are therefor thankful for P7 and other extension makers.
Exactly what do you refer to when you say "Visual Studio Pro?"
You are correct in what I am saying, but as you say, 'it will never happen'. Mainly because to do so it would require a very good understanding of exactly what is required.
Regarding VS Pro -
If you read -
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/designers/designing-xaml-in-visual-studio?vi ew=vs-2017
you will see that when creating Windows programs, (or apps) even MS has recognised that creating the UI and many of the components, a visual method of doing so is very helpfull. It is possible to use MS Blend to create web UI's if one knows what to add and remove. When MS first introduced Blend many programmers, (coders) did not want to use it, but now there are not many who do not use it.
Having the option to create UI's and components visually for web sites, would I think follow the same course, in that many would initially object, but after they had tried it, it would be a 'must have' method or feature. A lot of the functionality that Blend creates still requires coding knowledge in order to change how it works, so no one is left out. It becomes a collaboration or combining of skill sets.

Knowing what is required would be simple, just have to see what extension builders are selling. That would give a major clue.

Regard VS Pro, that is what I thought you meant but just wanted to make sure. But, I notice that even VS Pro has extensions and plugins available to enhance its utility. (-: I guess there will always be someone who can think of a way to make something better.

Is the "Community Edition" worth downloading?

mbk28

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I rarely speak on this forum, just read it regularly, but there are things that make me sick:

- First, I'm not an Adobe employee and I do not earn anything to write the following.

- First, it's a dislocation site on Adobe's Dreamweaver software and not a site where you sell products, it's not ok to do that. If you want to sell its extensions, there is an Adobe site for all of its products, but not on the forum. if it were up to me, these posts would be deleted by the moderators.

- then advertising for products that do not work is useless and clutters the thread unnecessarily.

- That some practice only by the code and other than by the visual, do not bother me, on the conditions to remember that DW allows 2 and that since at least 1999, date of my discovery of this software. Personally, I practice both.

- we have problems with the operation of the current version, is not new, personally, I reported many times crasch following the new system of F & R, but this is not a reason for virtually insult the developers. They have a hierarchy and must follow orders received.

- questioning tools that exist and have been developed for many years and have been incorporated in DW, is useless. Nobody forces you to use them.

If you do not like using Dw, there are many other free or paid

VL Branko

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mbk28 wrote
I rarely speak on this forum, just read it regularly, but there are things that make me sick:
- First, I'm not an Adobe employee and I do not earn anything to write the following.
- First, it's a dislocation site on Adobe's Dreamweaver software and not a site where you sell products, it's not ok to do that. If you want to sell its extensions, there is an Adobe site for all of its products, but not on the forum. if it were up to me, these posts would be deleted by the moderators.
- then advertising for products that do not work is useless and clutters the thread unnecessarily.
- That some practice only by the code and other than by the visual, do not bother me, on the conditions to remember that DW allows 2 and that since at least 1999, date of my discovery of this software. Personally, I practice both.
- we have problems with the operation of the current version, is not new, personally, I reported many times crasch following the new system of F & R, but this is not a reason for virtually insult the developers. They have a hierarchy and must follow orders received.
- questioning tools that exist and have been developed for many years and have been incorporated in DW, is useless. Nobody forces you to use them.
If you do not like using Dw, there are many other free or paid

I don't work for P7 and I am not selling software. So what is the wrong in saying that it is a good product that greatly enhances the value of DW? Frankly if it were not for P7 I probably wouldn't be using DW.

R

Richard_LefkoAuthor

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I truly appreciate the varying opinions and answers to my question.

I am not a "coder" so the coding tools would not help me much at all.

Maybe someday.

This would all be very simple if Adobe did not switch to a subscription service. I think that is my biggest hangup.

If I could just buy the latest version, I probably would.

The websites I have developed were for myself, friends, and family, so I guess one could argue the Dreamweaver, in any version, is probably more power than I need. But I have plug ins I have invested in over the years and this application (DW6) is "comfortable" for me. Yes, I understand that it isn't Adobe's fault that Apple is changing its OS, but I do fault Adobe for leaving some of us behind by moving to their current menu of pricing.

I realize they are here to make money, on high end folks who develop for a living, and I am not the focus of that business model, so the heck with me. Probably why applications like Rapidweaver continue to flourish.

Al, I will post this on your forms as well for opinions there.

Again, that you all for replying. This has been very interesting and enlightening.

Rich

ALsp

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Al, I will post this on your forms as well for opinions there.

Sorry for all the noise around these parts. We serve iced cold spring water on our forum - always in full glasses :-)

B i r n o u

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ALsp a écrit
We serve iced cold spring water on our forum - always in full glasses :-)

it's to your credit,

what a great commercial gesture

Nancy OShea

Correct answer

Community Expert

#1 Creative Cloud is NOT cloud-based software. CC desktop apps install on your OS just the same as before.

See system requirements. Adobe Creative Cloud system requirements

#2 Work files are under your control. You may store them wherever you wish. The optional Cloud Stroage is useful when synchronizing with other devices or collaborating with people but it's not required that you use it.

#3 IMO, Creative Suite 6 is not better than CC (it's 9 versions behind). But if you find you need it for a particular project, you have access to it from your Creative Cloud Desktop app. I have 3 versions of DW installed on my machine. But I work with only 1 version at a time.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

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Richard_LefkoAuthor

Participating Frequently

Thank you Nancy. I appreciate your thoughts.

ALsp

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Hi Richard,

There is little value unless you have an affinity for Bootstrap, though Bootstrap automation is pretty thin. Since I have little regard for Bootstrap, I cannot defend switching from CS6 unless you use a Mac. Why? Because while CS6 will likely continue to work on Windows 10 for a decade or more, there are problems getting it to run well on the latest Mac OS and that will probably get worse with the next Apple upgrade. Another reason is UHD. CS6 does not support ultra HD screens, though there are workarounds I've seen.

If it's a question of features only, stick with CS6 and if anyone recommends otherwise please weigh their answers very, very carefully.

I also recall you are a long-time customer of ours. While our extensions work perfectly in Dreamweaver 19, Adobe has abandoned its own extension manager, so you'll need to install our free one to install your extensions. It's not a huge deal, but it is a pain in the butt.

R

Richard_LefkoAuthor

Participating Frequently

Thank you for the answer....

I use a Mac. Right now I am working on a Mac Pro, waiting for the new version (Hardware), so I am still at El Cap 10.11.

However, I also use my MacBook Air, which I would like to upgrade to Mojave. I have not because I am afraid DW CS 5, which I have running on that, will not work.

I think upgrading the Air to DW 6 will yield the same issue...won't work on Mojave, or as you stated, "what's to come"

Thoughts?

Rich

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Richard_LefkoAuthor

Participating Frequently

Took me a second to realize who you were.

YES, I have a bunch of your stuff. Would like to recode my website from the ground up...not really dying to move to DW CC whatever, but I fear updating Mac OS on my Air, and future Pro level macs, will not run legacy DW application.

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