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Non breaking spaces everywhere!

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June 22, 2021
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Working in live view in the main window (not code), any number of actions cause DW (latest CC version) to insert non-breaking spaces everywhere. If not for the program entering these, I never use them. Literally never.

Example: UL, hit enter to add a new list item...nbsp at the end. Many different things do it. Is there any way to get this to stop? DW still ignores attempts to delete non-breaking spaces in the design window (live view), instead deleting the first character next to it in either direction. This was allegedly fixed, but never released into a mainstream version, AFAIK.

Need this frustrating and basically pointless practice to stop, as it's doing my head in.

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senzan

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Glad im not the only one experiencing this idiotic problem.

This infuriating bug is still happening over a year since this post. How is it this software has gotten worse rather than better...

Jon Fritz

Community Expert

Unfortunately, DW is now in a no-real-development Limbo.

Adobe has no plans for new features or bug fixes. Going forward, they're only concentrating on security patches and OS compatibility updates, if needed.

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wbearAuthor

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Adobe has no plans for new features or bug fixes. Going forward, they're only concentrating on security patches and OS compatibility updates, if needed.

By @Jon Fritz

21.3 (which was a really long time coming) fixes some bugs in Mac. Nothing for Windows users.

As for fixes, like the latest "security fix" where they tanked all SFTP connections to even slightly old implementations of OpenSSH? Decided to remove all support for older protocols, without informing users during or prior to the update to 21.3, unless you were following the pre-alpha-release discussion....

Show of hands, how many DW users do that? 😉

The writing is on the wall here. Dreamweaver will eventually be dropped when users get tired of all the issues and lack of attention and stop using it, giving Adobe the excuse to kill it off. Shame. This was the last of the products in the CC collection that was tricky for me to replace with an equivalent. If it goes, so do I. Save a good amount of money per year.

B i r n o u

Community Expert

so much noise for all that... wow... wouldn't it have been simpler to declare, and admit the bug... impressive.

Gail5ECD

Known Participant

I have noticed this myself when editing in design view so I have to revert to code view in order to take out the NBSs, annoying and shouldn't be there. Thanks for bringing it up and doing something about it.

- "Good English is an Art."

Jon Fritz

Community Expert

Visit the bug report forum here: https://dreamweaver.uservoice.com/forums/382851-adobe-dreamweaver-bugs

Create a new bug report. Be as descriptive as possible about the method you're using to get the nbsp to show up (don't skip any steps, no matter how small they seem) so the devs can replicate it on their end (which they should be able to do without a problem).

Post a link to the bug report here so people can find it and add a vote to it.

With enough people chiming in, Adobe will move it up the list of fixes and hopefully get it taken care of sooner rather than later.

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wbearAuthor

Known Participant

Thank you, Jon. The last one I submitted languished without votes or action for quite a while (since February). The previous one I'd submitted was about the paragraph issue touched on in this thread. To date, no responses.

OK, just tried. Filled it out, submitted, and it sent me a "magic link" to verify and log in.

Unfortunately, that link errors out as broken, and I can't. I'd add that to the bug list, but...

Thoughts?

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

Working in live view in the main window (not code)...

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Sounds like your code contains critical errors that need to be resolved.

Go to Window > Results > Validation.
Check document by pressing the triangle.
Fix all reported errors in your code.

If you still need help, upload the problem page to your remote server and post the URL here.

Code reference:

- https://www.w3schools.com/html/
- https://www.w3schools.com/css/

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

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wbearAuthor

Known Participant

Any issue I have, even proven DW faults, that's the first response.

This happens on all pages. Here's one, in it's entirety:

<!doctype html>
<html>
<head>
<meta charset="utf-8">
<title>Untitled Document</title>
</head>

<body>
<ul>
  <li>testing</li>
  <li>more testing</li>
  <li>even more testing</li>
  <li>once more&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
</body>
</html>

At no point did I add that nbsp in the last item. DW places that in the code, and if you click away or use ESC to end editing, it remains.

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wbearAuthor

Known Participant

Nasty? I was reacting to one too many times turning the other cheek.
Though there's always the chance I'm reading into the replies (though having been a forum moderator for a lot of years I've seen this sort of response from trolls; as in not blatant, but many subtle digs to elicit a reaction), being told I fat fingered the spacebar while pressing enter (rather than simply testing), or how I should use a much older version downloaded from a third party website because it would "fit my workflow better" and so on, that's fairly demeaning. Not once did she say she tried it and it does what I say, just all the other things that don't do it, like design mode.
Does that feel normal to you? Helpful? Heroic?
Not to me, and it doesn't feel accidental either. Frustrating enough having bugs, worse still having constant reluctance to come here and ask questions, because this keeps happening. Nancy is alone in the responses that appear to be digs, not one of the other folks with the title has ever left me feeling that way. Ever.
Moving on.

By @wbear

Whilst I don't agree with some of the replies as you seem to have a genuine agrievance given you could be paying a premium price for the product and would expect some kind of acknowledgment and more importantly a time scale to put it right I cant help wondering why you keep on using Dreamweaver?

It would help me to understand why Dreamweaver still exists. Are you just using it as part of a subscription to the CC? If that the case its basically a freebie progam and maybe why people still use it.

Its painful for me, who used Dreamweaver for years, to see its slow demise. I rather it be EoL instead of kept on what is life-support, going nowhere.

I cant help wondering why you keep on using Dreamweaver?
It would help me to understand why Dreamweaver still exists. Are you just using it as part of a subscription to the CC? If that the case its basically a freebie progam and maybe why people still use it.

I started using Dreamweaver (1.2 was my first one) long before Adobe bought it. Macromedia owned it at the time, and did a great job. That and Fireworks combined was hard to beat. Mainly I kept up with it out of work habits. The sync feature without needing different software was terrific (not many FTP programs at the time did date based file sync well), and the ability to use a template was a plus.

I'm fully capable of working in text editors and making what I need, and could use a diff program to monitor changes, as well as a separate FTP (well, SFTP) program that has very good syncing...but that's 3 programs for the job that one does, albeit with occasional issues like this.

An inconvenience that often outweighs the inconvenience of several programs.

It's not free. I pay to get this, Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign, and use them all daily.

It is, however, getting to the point where the frustration is getting to me. It's not a trivial spend each month (though mostly I get more than enough value in what I create to warrant it), and there are other programs to replace all but DW easily. Learning curve, but as long as I avoid the tragic accidental spacebar presses, I'm ok.

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