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GFleming
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March 21, 2015
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Performance issues in latest PPAPI Flash Player releases?

  • March 21, 2015
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Hi there,

I've recently noticed some pretty serious performance issues in the latest versions of the PPAPI Flash Player in Chrome.

I'm using:

  • Windows 7 64-bit
  • Chrome Version 41.0.2272.101 m (64-bit)
  • Flash Player PPAPI Version: 17.0.0.134

I've noticed a large drop in performance recently when updating Chrome, I have been using Away3D 4.1 (using Stage3D) to create a series of Generative Art experiments, if you check out the one below I find that in Internet Explorer and Firefox (using the NPAPI version of the Flash Player) the FPS performance on my system is around 35-40 fps for me, but in Chrome's PPAPI player it drops drastically to around 6 or 7 fps.

I just recently updated my Chrome version so this is a recent change... around a few weeks ago this content was working fine in Chrome, around the same 35-40 fps I am getting in other browsers.

http://waroo.com/genart9s

Is anyone else out there seeing these performance issues with recent releases of Chrome's PPAPI Flash Player?

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Correct answer jeromiec83223024

That's great news, thanks for the update.  We work closely with the Chrome team, and there have been performance fixes on both sides.  I'd have to debug it to figure out who to attribute it to, but it's great to know that things are trending in the right direction.  We'd definitely like to get to parity with NPAPI in terms of performance (there's frequently a trade-off between security and performance), and we'll continue to target opportunities for gains where they arise.

Thanks!

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GFlemingAuthor
Known Participant
July 21, 2015

Just updated to:

Chrome 44.0.2403.89 m (64-bit)

with Flash Player 18.0.0.2009

and I'm now getting much better performance, between 17 - 23fps

http://waroo.com/genart9s2/

Still not as as good as the NPAPI version of the Flash Player but it's definitely better.

If you guys did manage to do something or help Google with the latest builds then thank you

Cheers,

Greg

jeromiec83223024
Community Manager
jeromiec83223024Community ManagerCorrect answer
Community Manager
July 21, 2015

That's great news, thanks for the update.  We work closely with the Chrome team, and there have been performance fixes on both sides.  I'd have to debug it to figure out who to attribute it to, but it's great to know that things are trending in the right direction.  We'd definitely like to get to parity with NPAPI in terms of performance (there's frequently a trade-off between security and performance), and we'll continue to target opportunities for gains where they arise.

Thanks!

S
Shanghai-Jack
New Participant
July 30, 2015

Hello Greg and Jeromie,

Thanks for all effort these last months! (developing also a game with Flash Stage 3D and impacted by this major issue)


Maybe a good news that will need both your confirmation please:

Using now

  • Windows 7 64-bit
  • Chrome Version 44.0.2403.125 m (64-bit)
  • Flash Player PPAPI Version: 18.0.0.209

    We have observed significant improvements !
    If giving to IE & DirectX a performance score of 100, Chrome v44 give us now 95, while before upgrade, Chrome v43 was score only 65

GFleming‌

Using your benchmark GenArt

FPS is ~25 to 30

Ram 673 / 701 M

Poly : 11572

Compare to Chrome v43, I got feeling the stats are better (too bad I didn't take note before upgrade). Do you confirm too?

Jeromie Clark‌

Any clue by your side what could help for such improvement?

Cheers!
Jacques

quentinb76515308
quentinb76515308
Participating Frequently
March 25, 2015

Hi,

I'm presently troubleshooting your issue and I was wondering if you happened to have known what versions of Chrome and Flash you previously had prior to the updating.

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GFlemingAuthor
Known Participant
March 26, 2015

Hi quentinb, I will do some more investigation and try to get you more info, however because of Chrome's auto-updating I'm not sure I can get an exact version.

I do know that Chrome v39.0 (the version I currently use at work) does not have this issue, and would be using Flash Player 16 I believe?

G
GFlemingAuthor
Known Participant
April 8, 2015

Hi Greg,

We're still investigating this issue. Presently we're still deciding if this is a Flash issue or a Chrome issue. Can you do the following for me:

1. Can you provide me the "about://gpu" info for your work PC

2. Please keep your work PC environment unchanged (i.e. keep it at Chrome version 39), so that we can do some comparisons with other versions

3. We are presently trying to identify Chromium builds that closely match M39/M40/M41/M42. Once we have identified them we'll want you to try them on your home PC to see whether this issue is Chrome's injection or Flash's injection.

4. Are you familiar with 'manually installing' PPAPI flash? If so then I will send you the latest PPAPI flash release so that you can install it on your work PC to confirm whether this is Flash's injection. If you are not familiar with doing the manual install I can easily send you instructions.

5. Can you type "about://flags" (leave out the quotes) on both work and home PCs. Then check "D3D11" setting for each PC .

Let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Regards,

Quentin


Hi Quetin,

Apologies for the delay in getting back to you, I've been on an Easter holiday and just returned today.

I'm afraid my work PC has automatically updated itself over the last week or so, as it's now running Chrome v41

Do you know if there is a way I can downgrade to a particular version of Chrome easily?

I'm afraid I'm not familiar with manually installing the PPAPI Flash Player, please send through some instructions with the latest version of the player and I'll give it a go.

I'm also not seeing any D3D11 setting under "about://flags" on my Home PC.

I suppose it's good to hear that others (Jiaqi) are having this problem too and it's not just a an isolated case, might make it easier to track down with more data/machines?

Cheers,

Greg

jeromiec83223024
Community Manager
jeromiec83223024Community Manager
Community Manager
March 24, 2015

Thanks.  I think I answered your thread in the public forum, but I'll have my QE guys try and regress it.

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