If Adobe wanted to make money with Flex and Flash... all they had to do was copy the Microsoft model for their development tools... and stand up for the quality of the Flash/Flex technology vs. the crap-that-is-HTML5.

Instead they started with Flex 1 (or was it 2?) selling at $12,000 a seat... and aimed only for Enterprise level developers.

And then ultimately by 4.x caved to Steve Jobs (who was threatened by Flash actually making Steve's AppStore unnecessary), and the UX-idealists (who think reinventing the wheel every year for SXSW is productive).

And Adobe has devoted so much of their developer "expense" on reinventing the wheel... and there seem to be many people outside who also think rebuilding EVERYTHING in Javascript is the way to go.

When someone replaces Flash Professional with a equivalent quality tool that codes in Javascript and outputs SVG (or whatever HTML5 considers "pure") files...

AND when those files can run in all the web-browsers WITHOUT a plug-in as fast and well as FlashPlayer (because that's what the idealists demanded)...

THEN maybe I'll believe the whole ridiculous effort was worth it.

FlashBuilder 4.8 or 5.0... from Adobe... I expect the resurrection of Steve Jobs as an HTML5 web-app will happen first.

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jmichas

Participating Frequently

Pother, I wish this was stackoverflow so I could give you +1 for best FB rant ever, hilarious.

Who let you in my head to steal my thoughts anyway?

The convoluted Adobe product strategy couldn't have been put any better, I miss Macromedia.

SourceSkyBoxer

Known Participant

Good idea, i want work on Flash Builder 5

PS: Suggestion for mossed components since 2004 by Macromedia Inc.

Very old components from Flash MX 2004 / Flash 8 we missed there.

Flex SDK sees shit because xml-list for menu and it sometimes get error like menu doesn't load xml.

I knew about good functions by menu components from MX 2004 / 8 like thios

<instance> is menu component:

package

{

// Convert from old component by Macromedia into AS3

import components.Menu;

import components.MenuItem; // Idea by SourceSkyBoxer

import flash.Display.Sprite;

import flash.events.MouseEvent;

public class MainApp extends Sprite

{

private var menu:Menu;

private var fileItem:MenuItem;

private var closeItem:MenuItem;

public function MainApp()

{

menu = new Menu();

menu.addItem(fileItem);

menu.x = menu.y = 10;

this.addChild(menu);

fileItem = new MenuItem();

fileItem.label = "File";

newItem.addItem(closeItem)

closeItem = new MenuItem();

closeItem.label = "Close an application!";

closeItem.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, onClickCLose);

}

private function onClickCLose(mev:MouseEvent):void

{

// Something function for handler

}

}

}

PS: I really missed Menu Component because MouseEvent.RightCLick / MouseEvent.CONTEXT_MENU are available since Flash Player 9. I am getting crazy because Menu Component from Flash Pro 9, 10, 11 and 12 haven't yet. Now Flex SDK has MouseEvent.CONTEXT_MENU here and i have tested Menu from Flex Component ( Flex SDK 3.6.0a ) = It works fine like i have created example desktop into Flash Player 11

Build by Flex SDK 4.9.11 with MX Version.

But i want go back Flash Pro CS5.5 / Flash Pro CS6. - Did you develop any minimal components for Pure AS3?

And i have tested with Aspiere Component uiMenu and it works fine, too with Away 3D under Flash Builder 4.5

PS: Aspire Components has faked skins like Windows 2k, XP and Vista Skins

There images are Flash Player 12, Aspire Component UI by Ghostwire with Away3D 4.1.6

But Aspire Component sees like Flex Components But they won't work with Away 3D - View3D inside uiWindow was hidden.

For future with Flash Player 13/14 looks like accessed hidden contextmenu like Qooxdoo Frameworks. I want to hide with Flash Player's Contextmenu.

Application's Container should to set to false without contextmenu. = No contextmenu? If they like this.... Thanks for support

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Ulimetic

Known Participant

Shameless bump ?

X

XIDA.de

New Participant

Maybe Adobe will abandon Flash Builder in the future. They updated all product names to "CC" like "Photoshop CC" but Flash Builder still has a number in the name. At least it seems like they don't care alot about this product.

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jmichas

Participating Frequently

I think this is ridiculous, cant Adobe post some sort of FB roadmap (if one exists) and let those of us using flex know whether there will be tools coming. If FB is dead then I might as well stop developing in it. I can believe the entire product line for flash is geared around games. Some of us out here actually make applications for business and not entertainment.

Its horrible that adobe's move to open source flex has basically dropped the bottom out of the flex community. Frameworks like parsley, mate, etc. have all been abandoned since there is really no clear direction for the technology.

I pay adobe for the creative cloud subscription and I want to know whether the app I live in will be alive in the future. If not I will give up on my adobe subscription, I can live without photoshop, illustrator and fireworks. Then my money is probably better spent with Xamarin or something like that where I can develop in C# anyway since all my backend stuff is MS stack technology.

I for one have been involved in Flash developement since the days of Future Splash Animator when macromedia bought it and made it Flash v1. Its a shame to give up on a platform with so many current features and so much potential.

Adobe, let us know.

Maybe we can get adobe to open source the FB IDE code.

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Nicolas Dion-Bouchard

Known Participant

Any update on this? Can we get some sort of a roadmap or something? Should we be moving to other products (FDT, FlashDevelop)? I prefer Flash Builder but it lacks features and stability. It's not perfect but it does the job. What's next Adobe?