Angled Linked images pixelated ONLY on export

[Dos Pinos in house]

Hi, I've been dealing with this for a long time, since export replaced the old "save for web" command.

When I have linked images placed at ANY angle different from 0º the exported artboard results in pixelation.

This doesn't happen if I use the legacy Save For Web command. This is makes the multiple artboard export completelly useless, because if I want to avoid pixelation, I have to export every artboard individually.

This also happens to EMBEDDED images which I don't use since it makes the file size too big and slow.

I'm attaching two images of the same file, one was created with EXPORT command and the other with SAVEFORWEB.

[carlosmoralesquiros]

I have the same problem, this is a very old issue and still happening....

[Ton Frederiks]

What are the anti-aliasing settings when you export? Do you use art optimized?

[carlosmoralesquiros]

Different AntiAlias settings, same results...

[Larry G. Schneider]

What PPI are you using? Have you tried using multiples of 72 like 144, 216, 288.

[carlosmoralesquiros]

PPI changes don't affect the result, I've tried everything, this is an example at 72ppi, but this happens at any resolution.

[Ton Frederiks]

I can see a big difference between Type and Art optimized.

[carlosmoralesquiros]

How did you exported that? Of course theres a difference between optimizations, but that's not my point, my point is that ANGLED images pixelate after export,  no matter with AA optimization. Thats why I'm posting angled and not angled linked images on the same artboard.

These are the steps so you can reproduce the issue:

STEP 1: place a linked image (it can be JPG, PNG, any format)

STEP 2: duplicate and rotate the same image (so you can compare results)

STEP 3: Export using "EXPORT AS..." command (choose any format and optimization you like)

STEP 4: Look at the difference.

EDIT: Added image for clarity.

[Ton Frederiks]

I used Export for Screens with 2 different anti aliasing options.

[Ton Frederiks]

But when I use your steps I get the same result as in my example

Remember that artwork with angled lines will always give stairsteps when exported as an image.

Low resolution and Type optimized make it more visible.

[carlosmoralesquiros]

Did you saw the first post? one jpg was created with "Save for Web" and the other was created using "Export for Screens". Clearly they are different, no matter what optimization I use, what format, what size, what ppi, the rotated image looks very different from one image to the other. Thats my issue. I need the "EXPORT FOR SCREENS" to give me the same results as "SAVE FOR WEB".

I think you're missing my point, I KNOW all workarounds to fix this, I've been using this program since Adobe Illustrator 88, my issue is WHY do I have to work around this in the first place.

Export for Screens should produce pixel perfect images of all my artworks at any size, resolution and format, no matter how I place or rotate the images.

EXAMPLE: Two artboards, same linked image, one is placed without rotation, the second is rotated. Exported both with "Export for Screens" settings JPG 100 with AntiAlias Art Optimized, and here's the result.

No imagine you have 40+ artboards, most of them with rotated images... I want to export them all with one command... 

[Monika Gause]

I can't reproduce that with Export for screens.

Can you post your settings and also the origional image you placed in Illustrator? Maybe even the AI file together with the palced image?

[carlosmoralesquiros]

This are the files I'm using for this example, but this happens to me with all files and images, on all my computers, since Save for Web became "Legacy"... fingers crossed it's never actually removed from Illustrator. 

Can't attach the .ai file... I can send it to you directly if you want.

[Monika Gause]

Thank you. 

What you could do: try the public beta of Illustrator. That's where I got my better results.

[carlosmoralesquiros]

That gives me a little hope... thanks.

[Ton Frederiks]

I did some more tests, the beta gave me the same horrible results with art optimized jpeg as you showed. Art or Type does not matter. PNG works fine in the beta. 

The shipping version 27.8.1 does what it should and gives good results with Art optimized export.

[carlosmoralesquiros]

I'm on the latest version 27.8.1, no good results.

[Ton Frederiks]

There must be some setting that does not stick. Art Optimized gives me much better result. First I thought it could be because I used png, but with jpeg it works fine too.

[carlosmoralesquiros]

I'm glad you don't have to deal with this. But it doesn't help me. I've tried everything, since I work a lot with multiple artboards and angled images... This happens on all my computers, on all versions of AI (haven't tried beta) fresh installs, fresh systems, all of them...

[Monika Gause]

For me this depended also upon the angles. I had better results with larger angles. But with the 5° the results were bad. But then again: in the public beta this was improved.

[carlosmoralesquiros]

Try "Save for Web (Legacy)" instead of "Export for screens...", any angle comes out perfect... but only one artboard at a time... so this adds a lot of time to my workflow.

[Monika Gause]

As I said: try the public beta. You can install it from the Creative Cloud app.

[carlosmoralesquiros]

I don't want to use Beta for work, since it could introduce new problems I don't need nor want to deal with. I'll try it at home for testing purposes, tho.

[Ton Frederiks]

For me the public beta made it worse. Art Optimized does not work with jpeg, it looks like Type optimized.

PNG works as expected.

[carlosmoralesquiros]

oh no.... :(((