Fonts don't scale correctly

[mecdos]

i'm on the latest illustrator version on mac sequoia 

when scaling text, font sizes don't scale correctly. this is specially bad in mix type layouts. and it isn't even predictable. in the example i included it is very obvious, but in single line situations for example if i have type that is 10pts and i scale it 200 percent, the type will be something like 20.33pts

when scaling art by bounding box, the preview shows scaling correctly in real time, when you let go/complete the transform, the type just blows up

this is really messing me up since i have to work in scale with the same layout in different scales and the type is all over the place. 

[Anubhav M]

Hello @Te_co,

Thanks for reaching out. Could you try converting your text layers to Point Type to see if it helps with your workflow?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Anubhav

[mecdos]

Point type is the same. It seems to be related to having paragraph styles applied. In which case this is not the behavior i would expect if it was trying to mainting the style ( type would remain the same not get way bigger). I would expect the style link to be broken, but also deleting the styles doesnt remove the issue from existing layouts. 

[Kurt Gold]

Using paragraph styles is an essential hint in this case.

I can then reproduce the issue when scaling with the Scale tool, the Free Transform tool or by scaling with the Transform panel.

Unless I'm overlooking something, I'd say it's a terrible bug.

[mecdos]

I installed the previous version of illustrator and the bug was present there too. 

[Kurt Gold]

Yes, I can confirm the issue also occurs in Illustrator 29.8.2.

[Anubhav M]

Hello @Te_co,

Thanks for confirming. Could you please share a link to a sample file, along with a small screen recording of your workflow and the issue, so we can review it with the team?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Anubhav

[Kurt Gold]

Anubhav, good evening.

Not quite sure who you mean by Te_co, but you probably just want to get a sample file for inspection.

Here you can download one that contains a text object with three paragraph styles.

Unstable Paragraph Styles

Please scale the text object in that file with the Scale tool, the Free Transform tool or scale it by using the Transform panel.

Then you may report what you see and if you think that it is an expected behaviour or an unpleasant bug.

[Ton Frederiks]

Looks like a strange bug, Kurt. I tried the Transform Effect, which does look good at first but after Expand Appearance, the Character panel shows the original size instead of the visually scaled one.

[Kurt Gold]

Yes, Ton, it's a serious issue that may cause a lot of trouble. As far as I can see there is no reliable and reasonable workaround to prevent it.

[Ton Frederiks]

And is reproducable at least since AI 2023

[Bobby Henderson]

I can't seem to re-create the problem on my end using the Transform>Scale command on either Point Text or Area Text objects, even if they contain a mix of different typefaces. The point values still correspond correctly to the scale percentage applied to the text object.

What fonts are you using that scale incorrectly? Have you tried other fonts to see if the same issue occurs?

[Kurt Gold]

There were some complaints about (possibly) similar issues in conjunction with grouped threaded text objects.

Perhaps you can clarify and share a sample file for inspection.