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dannylelieveld
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June 23, 2014
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Illustrator cc 2014 grid snap problem

  • June 23, 2014
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Since Updating to the whole cc2014 suite last week, grid snapping in Illustrator has been terrible. Literally Nothing really snaps to the grid.


Does anyone share this problem? Anyone has a solution to this?

And Yes, i've turned off 'align to pixel grid'.

I'm working on a mac with OSX 10.9.3 running.

Thanks in advance!

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Correct answer Monika Gause

It's not a bug.

New rectangles are always live rectangles. Live rectangles cannot be aligned to the pixel grid because it would break them.

What you need to do is convert your live rectangles to paths (using the command in Object > Shape) and then align them to the pixel grid (by checking the option in the transform panel). You can do this for all of them at once.

40 replies

Participant
September 15, 2014

A work around!

I work with an illustrator who hasn't had this problem because of the way he works.

He sets his grid to 1px and then snaps to grid.

works like a charm. At least as far as dropping pixel perfect rectangles down everytime.

I hope that helps

Luke

September 15, 2014

Unfortunately, this is the same grid setup I use in my projects. This does not demonstrate the unwanted behavior that changed with live rectangles. It still happens with a snap to grid set to pixels. So you can see what we're talking about:

1. Take your example document and draw a rectangle. X,Y,W, and H will all be on whole pixel values.

2. Now resize the rectangle by dragging any side or corner and you will note how it does not snap to whole pixel values, but starts introducing fractions of a pixel.

But if you convert the shape to non-live rectangle (Object > Shape > Convert to Rectangle), resizing does snap to whole values. Man, I hope they fix this soon.

Participant
September 8, 2014

As my previous speaker said, no way to work in Illustrator properly in the moment. Same issues here.

I also tried to subtract a logo from a form and this happens (fyi: the subtraction works fine in Indesign).

@ADOBE: Please fix this issues.

megdise
Participating Frequently
September 9, 2014

Oy that's weird. Did you check to see if either of those objects are set to align to pixel grid in the transform panel? That seems to create all kinds of inadvertent problems...

Participant
September 3, 2014

So I was having an issue with this same problem and so I called Adobe about it. We worked out what is the culprit.

There is a box under the advanced tab that needs to be unchecked when you make a new document. This is defaulted on the web template, but it isn't in the print one. As soon as it is unchecked it seems to work ok.

Participant
September 3, 2014

But it doesn't work. Meaning if you have that box checked then everything should snap to a whole pixel (like it used to do in previous versions of Illustrator). Right now it doesn't seem to work at all.

Participant
August 21, 2014

This is insane.  I just spent over an hour researching this and finding out live rectangles don't align to guides or Smart Guides.

And now I realize I have to convert every rectangle into a traditional rectangle instead of a live rectangle.  I think live rectangle should really be its own tool anyway (a different item in the toolbar).

Anyway... Any sort of preference setting or way to create traditional rectangles by default would be great.

Larry G. Schneider
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 21, 2014

Use the Polygon tool and specify 4 sides.

Participant
August 22, 2014

That is not a bad idea, and I know this isn't your fault, but we used to be

able to use the rectangle tool...

+1 for a Live Shapes tool and a Normal Shapes tool/

On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Larry G. Schneider <

megdise
Participating Frequently
August 21, 2014

I am also having problems with snapping drawn vector objects to other vector objects on my pasteboard. Even selecting both objects and using the align tool to align them does not work (the objects don't move and remain a fraction of a pixel off) Does anyone know if this has something to do with the "live corners" rectangle issue? Grid is turned off, snap to grid is also turned off.

I have recently reluctantly upgraded to CC and am extremely displeased to find that once again, Adobe has added a bunch of bloated features no one will use (effects > rounded corners worked just fine, thanks), broken things we rely on as fundamental to the program (snapping) and haven't solved problems that have existed for a decade.

Monika Gause
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 21, 2014

Are you working in an RGB document? Is align to pixel grid (this is different then align to grid or align to pixels) turned on?

megdise
Participating Frequently
August 21, 2014

Hey Monika

Yes, it's an RGB document. As far as I can tell, I have all snap to pixel options turned off but there could be something hidden somewhere I can't find. Nothing I did would allow me to get the two objects to snap together so I had to delete it and make a new object and now I can't seem to replicate the bug. But it's happened several times in different files. It feels as though when I move an object it still snaps, just to a location just left or right of where I want to to go. But it seems to be an inconsistent behavior, making it that more frustrating...

 

Inspiring
August 13, 2014

Although there's a lot to improve in the snap-to-grid behavior, one thing that helps preserve some of my own sanity (such as it is) is to make sure that strokes are aligned to the inside of the object path. When the stroke is split by the path (the default) then it's impossible to make an object with a stroke pixel-align (visually) unless the path is an even number of pixels thick.

Unfortunately, pixel-alignment is a tricky area because there are some basic features that can't be supported while alignment is on. For example, should a pixel-aligned object allow strokes that are odd or fractional pixels thick? If so, how should the half-pixels be represented? As whole pixels in the wrong place, or as anti-aliased pixels? Different projects would require different ways of dealing with those issues.

Participant
August 11, 2014

Same issue here - can not snap to pixel any longer. I use Illustrator for web UI design, so this is a deal-breaker! Adding another step (converting from live object) to align/snap to pixel or grid like it did before CC 2014 should not be required. Hopefully Adobe hears the community and addresses the pixel snapping issue soon!

Joonapuu
Participating Frequently
August 11, 2014

Same problem here. Really REALLY frustrating. Most of my work needs to be done in exact measurements, this just makes Illustrator useless to me..

Are there any good alternative applications for vector drawing? I'm not holding my breath that Adobe will fix this anytime soon, they seem to be living in some weird bubble by them selves after they moved everything to cloud and started charging every month for these beta versions of the software. I am not a happy customer.

August 11, 2014

Two of my coworkers have switched to Sketch by Bohemian Coding. It looks like a solid app. I'm holding out a little longer; wish me luck.

Participant
August 12, 2014

itsclockwork wrote:

Two of my coworkers have switched to Sketch by Bohemian Coding. It looks like a solid app. I'm holding out a little longer; wish me luck.

Illustrator is much faster and more reliable than Sketch for any type of designing (including UI design). Just watch this video: Adobe Illustrator vs Sketch performance - YouTube  The issue we're discussing in this thread is really annoying but saying you'll use a different tool won't convince the Adobe devs to work harder to solve this problem IMO. I'm sure they're really busy trying to find a good solution that will make everyone happy.

Fossa84
Participant
August 1, 2014

I am having also huge problems with the snap since the 2014 update.

Nothing reliably snaps to anything with the live rectangle. It is very inaccurate whether using smart guides, snap to grid or snap to pixel grid.


Could someone please explain if there is a reason WHY the live rectangle would "break" if it would snap to the pixel grid or to any other grid or guide for that matter.
The live rectangle is probably a neat feature but it's all spoiled if it's behaviour is totally random.

Participating Frequently
August 1, 2014

Well said Fossa84. I would also really like to hear an official explanation on this case from Adobe.

July 23, 2014

Object > Shape > Convert to Rectangle

Converting the rectangle (which is apparently now a "live rectangle" by default) resolved the snapping issues for me.

My Adobe friends, I now have to do 3-4 extra steps to make a rectangle behave the way I need it to (snap to grid). If live rectangles are incapable of snapping, then I don't want to use them by default. I'd strongly prefer a primitive rectangle and convert them to a live rectangle for the scenarios when I find that feature more important than snapping which… is probably never.

Participant
July 23, 2014

I agree. I'd rather have the "normal" rectangle by default and the special rectangle as a separate feature.