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Hello, my name is Sarah and I work for a sign company in north georgia. We are wanting to start adding 3D elements and pieces to our signs but we are new to the whole process. I was just wondering what program would be best for 3D programming and if there are any resources or classes that you recommend.
Anything is helpful.
Thanks
Illustrator is a 2D drawing program. What others have tried to explain is that for many kinds of "3D" sign fabrication, you could use a program like illustrator to make your fabrication working drawings, just as was and is commonly done via 2D drafting since long before anyone ever saw a desktop computer. They're speaking in the same sense that 2D drafting works just fine as instructions for a crew to build a 3D house.
But generating instructions for driving a three-axis numerically controlled ma
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Can you please post some links or pictures of what you want to create?
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It depends, like @MonikaGause asked, we would need to see what type of 3D.
If you need just simple shapes, then Illustrator should be fine. But, if you are looking for very intricate and robust 3D imagery, then you would need a sophisticated software, such as Strata 3D CX or Maya, which would take quite a bit of time to learn and master.
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Sketchup is easy to learn and use and can put out printable files, and make solids.
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Well this isn't really about 3D graphics, but physical fabrication of 3D sign elements, right? That's manufacturing/engineering, and for that you need Solid Modeling (3D CAD) to drive fabrication; Solidworks, PTC Creo; Autodesk Inventor, Onshape, etc.
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This is what we are trying to create!
We have a CNC Routing Machine that we can use for 3D but we just are not sure how.
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So you want to cut it out?
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Illustrator is a 2D drawing program. What others have tried to explain is that for many kinds of "3D" sign fabrication, you could use a program like illustrator to make your fabrication working drawings, just as was and is commonly done via 2D drafting since long before anyone ever saw a desktop computer. They're speaking in the same sense that 2D drafting works just fine as instructions for a crew to build a 3D house.
But generating instructions for driving a three-axis numerically controlled machine is another thing entirely.
If the router head actually moves in three dimensions (X, Y, and Z) as it cuts, Illustrator is the wrong kind of program for that. You need to be using a 3D CAD / CAM program in which you define an actual 3D model that can then be described in the form of driving instructions for an NC device that actually moves in three axes.
Now, if your NC router is really just a 2D router table with a depth adjustment, then you could use a 2D drawing program to draw 2D paths for a stack of incremental heights. This is similar in concept to the elevation contours you see on 2D land plots. But contour lines like that are not going to be generated by merely using graduated fills like you've done in your crab cartoon. And for drawing such contour paths, you would be far better off using a 2D drawing program that provides a decent "contour" feature (Corel Draw, for one example), as opposed to mere offset path and path blend features.
Even if what you're calling "3D" is really just making a stack of 2D cuts at different depths, understand: Illustrator and programs like it would just be for drawing the paths. Such programs are not going to actually drive the the cutting machine. For that, you will need a separate program (which may or may not be available in the form of a plug-in for your drawing program) that translates the paths you draw into plotter language instructions and then sends those instructions to the cutter.
All this is why you need to better describe what kind of device you are actually working with, and what kind of fabrication you are doing. "3D" is a very broad term. I could use a 2D computer-driven router to make a bunch of plywood cutouts that could then be assembled into a stack so as to make a "3D" embossed sign. That is entirely different from creating a file that can be used to drive a 3D computer-driven router, in which its instruction flow instructs the router to smoothly change its depth as it cuts.
This is the wrong site for seeking instructions for that. You need to be reading the documentation of the router and perhaps talking to its manufacturer about the file formats that drive it and recommendations for specific programs that you can license and learn in order to do your modeling and generate the compatible driver file formats.
JET
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You are correct, And I understand that we really have a very poor idea of what we are talking about. Thank you guys for helping me !
We have a Multi-Cam 3000 routing machine and we use EnRoute 6 for the cutting/routing of our signs.
Would our designs need to learn how to use EnRoute in order to get the 3D fabrication that we need?
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sarahh23834014 schrieb
Would our designs need to learn how to use EnRoute in order to get the 3D fabrication that we need?
You will need to study the documentation as to how exactly you will need to send your files to that device. And then do just that in Illustrator and export it in a supported file format.
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sarahh23834014 wrote
I was just wondering what program would be best for 3D programming
ACP and 3D expert davescm uses Blender for 3D. You can see some of his 3D artwork here:
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Hi
Thanks Jane. As others have said, the 3D imagery that I and others here usually get involved in is 3D computer generated images. The poster appears to be talking about the conversion of artwork into a model and onward into an instruction set to control a cutting machine. Jet's advice above is good.
Dave
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I was just wondering what program would be best for 3D programming...
Also understand: Nothing discussed in this thread so far is about 3D programming and that's not what it sounds like you are seeking. Programming is writing software code to create a software program. Your post seems to be just asking about what software is needed to use your NC router to create whatever you have in mind when you refer to "3D" signs.
JET
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As others have already mentioned, your type of 3D work requires a much more technical approach (and creativity) than Illustrator can offer. The 3D capabilities of Illustrator are very rudimentary (just some basic objects and simple packaging mock-ups). Adobe even has a much better new application to visualise some 3D ideas: Adobe Dimension. But both solutions are no way to get technical, nor to expect to print out immediately.
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