Problem creating outlines in Illustrator - weird keyline stroke on only some text

[NikkeyE]

I've got my illustrator files ready to print and I go to create outlines and some of the text appears keylined, while others are fine. Settings text that is fine and ones that are not are exactly the same. I'm at a loss on how to fix it & have no idea why/how it's happening. I've attached screenshots of before creating outlines and then after. Help.

[Jacob Bugge]

Nikkey,

It looks like a switch from fill to stroke.

[NikkeyE]

Hi Jacob,

It does - but it's not - it's still a fill.
I don't think there is a setting when saving to PDF to convert text to outlines so I don't know what to do to get it converted properly.

[Jacob Bugge]

Nikkey,

In my first post I misunderstood the screenshots to begin with, and edited to the present answer there.

But here is the original answer, which corresponds to my present (mis)understanding of the new screenshot (as being what I thought the first ones were):

It may sound like an unintended joke, but I am afraid that some text is outlined.

[NikkeyE]

Yes, the text does appear outlined but it is a fill. I have no idea how to fix it.

[Jacob Bugge]

Nikkey,

What I meant was: I am afraid that (only) some (of the) text is outlined (and some is still live Type).

And to me it still looks like a switch from fill to stroke for some of the text.

You can try this:

1) Create some live Type and move a copy a bit to the right;

2) Create Outlines (only the copy) and move a second copy a bit to the right;

3) Switch from fill to stroke (only the second copy);

4) Switch back and forth between Outline view and Preview and compare 1) - 3).

And I agree with Hans-Jürgen that it is time to also see the Appearance panel.

And it is impossible to see

[NikkeyE]

Hi

I've enclosed two other screenshots.
I'm not sure I understood your instructions but regardless the problem was not solved (the source of my issues). I put the nutrition table in a separate document and took screenshots. That document is also enclosed, though I had to save it as eps, as the forum wouldn't allow me to post the ai file. I've been using the nutrition templates for some time - they come from Health Canada as InDesign files & this just started happening.  Thanks

[pixxxelschubser]

I think so too.

Please show another screenshot with the selected (outlined) text and the visible Appearance Panel.

[NikkeyE]

Thanks

It's not a stroke, it's a fill.

Any ideas on how to fix this?

[pixxxelschubser]

Try to remove the fill color and reassign it.

[NikkeyE]

Hi - I tried that - but it didn't do anything. thanks for your suggestion though.

[Brad @ Roaring Mouse]

Can you share a file of that section?

[NikkeyE]

Thanks - I uploaded a file that has the nutrition table that is causing all the problems.

[Brad @ Roaring Mouse]

Found the problem.

You have some sub-layers set to Outline Mode, so despite the fact the main layer's visibility is set to Preview, the sub-layers keep what they've been assigned. The file is fine and would print okay, you are just not seeing the Preview of the affected sub-layers

You will need to Command-click (Mac) / Cntrl-click (PC) on each "eyeball" in the left column to toggle it back. I don't think there's any shortcut to do it all in one swoop.