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Scale multiple items by specific size without moving their positions

Community Beginner ,
Apr 22, 2013 Apr 22, 2013

I need to scale / tranform 30 - 40 circles from .5 to .25 that are in specifice locations, without moving the circles when scaled.

Any suggestions are welcomed.

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Danny

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LEGEND , Apr 22, 2013 Apr 22, 2013

Apply the Distort & Transform --> Transform effect or use Object --> Transform Each

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Community Expert , Apr 22, 2013 Apr 22, 2013

Try using Object>Transform>Transform Each with the following

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LEGEND ,
Apr 22, 2013 Apr 22, 2013

Apply the Distort & Transform --> Transform effect or use Object --> Transform Each

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 07, 2021 Dec 07, 2021

You save my time! Much Appreacited 

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New Here ,
Oct 03, 2022 Oct 03, 2022

I have one detail question: wenn I apply the transformation, the original object ist still there (invisble), plus the resulting transformed object. How do I apply those transformations permanently?

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New Here ,
Oct 03, 2022 Oct 03, 2022

And yes, thank you. That solution I searched for a long time.

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 11, 2023 Mar 11, 2023

10 years later and you're still a king among men for solving this problem!

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Community Expert ,
Apr 22, 2013 Apr 22, 2013

Try using Object>Transform>Transform Each with the following

Screen shot 2013-04-22 at 8.44.59 AM.png

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 22, 2013 Apr 22, 2013

Just a note to anyone else that may benifit to this thread.

If you have multiple objects you want to use Transform Each on, they cannot (that I know of) be grouped. I tried the objects grouped first, and not only were they scaled properly, but their positions were moved in respect to the grouped objects. Not what I wanted.

But... if you select the multiple objects making sure they are ungrouped, then scale as has been noted above, the objects will be scaled properly, and remain centered to the original objects.

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Community Beginner ,
May 13, 2013 May 13, 2013

Here is another note:

When you select all objects on a sublayer, that selection is behaving as it is a group.

Therefore it does not transform as you should expect.

If you leave one object out of your selection, everything is working fine (selection is not treated as a group).

This is not happening when all objects on a layer are selected.

I don't know if this is just a coincidence or is it meant to work this way.

If it was designed to work this way, it would be nice to find something about it in the help file.

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Community Expert ,
May 13, 2013 May 13, 2013

To elaborate a bit: In case you're dealing with common path objects, it is even sufficient to just deselect any single anchor point to make it work as expected.

As this procedure is so crafty and exceptionally intuitive, there is almost certainly no need to include it in the help files.

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Community Beginner ,
May 13, 2013 May 13, 2013

Thank you very much for your answer, but I must point out that it is not intuitive for me.

For me, there is a big diffrence between sublayer and group.

If I want objects to maintain geometry between them, then I group them.

For me, putting objects on the same sublayer is, in fact, creating a logical relation between them.

It should not have any effect on their geometrical relation.

And it is exactly what is happening here.

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Community Expert ,
May 13, 2013 May 13, 2013

mirjana, here's what Kurt said in HTML view

<sarcasm>As this procedure is so crafty and exceptionally intuitive, there is almost certainly no need to include it in the help files.</sarcasm>

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Community Beginner ,
May 13, 2013 May 13, 2013

Thank you for clarifying

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Explorer ,
Jul 19, 2023 Jul 19, 2023

thanks for this

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New Here ,
Apr 30, 2021 Apr 30, 2021

Thank you ! You just made my day 😄

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Explorer ,
Jan 29, 2018 Jan 29, 2018

"Ungroup" – this is the key unswer!

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New Here ,
Jan 05, 2019 Jan 05, 2019

This was the tip I was looking for!

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 22, 2013 Apr 22, 2013

Perfect, thank you!

Have done this before, but forgot the command.

Got the job done.

Danny

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New Here ,
Sep 17, 2016 Sep 17, 2016

Um, thanks for solving this, but how do you do the opposite? [2] I don't want to move things individually, (but i could), is there a way to scale the objects without changing there size (so scale just the position of the objects). Before i used really thick strokes on single anchor points to make circles and then was able to scale them or warp their positions without affecting their size. but now, for some reason, anchor points by themselves are not usable. [2] was this feature changed?

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Community Expert ,
Sep 18, 2016 Sep 18, 2016

khlouded schrieb:

Um, thanks for solving this, but how do you do the opposite? [2] I don't want to move things individually, (but i could), is there a way to scale the objects without changing there size (so scale just the position of the objects). Before i used really thick strokes on single anchor points to make circles and then was able to scale them or warp their positions without affecting their size. but now, for some reason, anchor points by themselves are not usable. [2] was this feature changed?

If you want to do the opposite then why don't you create your own thread for that.

Also: please post an example image.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 29, 2018 Jan 29, 2018
Um, thanks for solving this, but how do you do the opposite? [2] I don't want to move things individually, (but i could), is there a way to scale the objects without changing there size (so scale just the position of the objects).

Do it in two steps. Suppose, for example, you want to increase the distances between objects by 50%:

1. Select the Objects. DoubleClick the Scale Tool. In the Uniform value field, enter 150% (i.e., 3/2 expressed as a percentage).

2. Object Menu: Transform>Transform Each. In the Horizontal and Vertical Scale fields, enter 66.66% (i.e., 2/3 expressed as a percentage).

JET

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New Here ,
Dec 10, 2024 Dec 10, 2024

Thank you so much for this suggestion! 💚

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New Here ,
Dec 04, 2016 Dec 04, 2016

I also want  to know how to do that. I tried my best, but all my objects are being scaled. But they also move without my permission... I failed this task many times.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 04, 2016 Dec 04, 2016

They are probably grouped.

Ungroup them first before applying Transform Each.

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New Here ,
Dec 04, 2016 Dec 04, 2016

Hmm.. That is quite strange. I did it with grouped as well as with ungrouped objects… Didn't get the goal..

OK, gonna restart software and try more.

Thank you for help!

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