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Scripting Survey - please, oh please...

Guest
Jun 20, 2008 Jun 20, 2008
I'm trying to understand how to make life better for script developers, and a couple of minutes of your time would tell me worlds about your needs. When you've got five minutes to spare, would you point a browser at ...

http://niemannross.com/limesurvey/index.php?sid=83733&lang=en

THANK YOU!!

Mark Niemann-Ross
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LEGEND ,
Jun 20, 2008 Jun 20, 2008
Is this "survey" actually sponsored by Adobe?

If Adobe wants to make scripting more popular among its rank-and-file users, it should:

Provide more samples in the Scripting Reference. At least one for each method, for example.

Make the scripting documentation easier to find on the website.

PARTICIPATE in its own User Forums. (Compare the participation of Olav Kvern in the InD forum, for example, to the non-participation in this AI forum.)

FIX the dang things that users have been complaining about since scripting was first implemented. (Ex: Can't reliably call an AI Javascript from an AI Action.)

Provide a decent built-in mechanism for storing and launching scripts. Compare InD's Scripts palette to Illustrator's tedious File>Scripts sub-menu.

PAY ATTENTION to your own users in your own user forums, instead of publishing "surveys" that never ask the right questions.

JET
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LEGEND ,
Jun 21, 2008 Jun 21, 2008
James_Talmage@adobeforums.com wrote:
> Is this "survey" actually sponsored by Adobe?
>
If Mark is doing the survey, I would assume so. (I assume you know who
he is...)

Ang$t@adobeforums.com wrote:
> PARTICIPATE, I have NEVER seen a post from an adobe rep/employee/(something to do with the adobe)on this forum and I have been here for 3 years.
>

I guess you don't call Marks posts, posts... ;)

Harbs
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Community Beginner ,
Jun 21, 2008 Jun 21, 2008
Very well put JET. I agree with all points and emphasize:
PARTICIPATE, I have NEVER seen a post from an adobe rep/employee/(something to do with the adobe)on this forum and I have been here for 3 years.
FIX, has anyone ever gotten the name-value tags working? As one example.
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LEGEND ,
Jun 22, 2008 Jun 22, 2008
No, Harbs, I do not know Mark from Adam.

Mark, if you do represent Adobe in this forum, why not sign your posts so as to indicate the fact?

JET
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LEGEND ,
Jun 23, 2008 Jun 23, 2008
Hi James,

While I can't answer for him (as to why he doesn't make it clearer as to
who he is), Mark is way up there in the "food chain" at Adobe. Exactly
what his official position is, I don't know, but he is responsible for
many aspects of various SDKs in Adobe's products. If you have
suggestions / requests, I believe he is a very good address. Either way,
filling out the survey and writing your issues there will probably be
helpful!

I believe Mark's official title is Adobe Developer Evangelist. Here's
his blog:
http://blogs.adobe.com/notesfrommnr/

And here's his wiki:
http://www.niemannross.com/developer/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

FWIW, I totally agree with your complaints. The few times I've written
scripts for Illustrator, I've found the scripting DOM woefully lacking
compared to InDesign's (and I wrote so when I filled out this survey...).

Harbs
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Community Beginner ,
Jun 23, 2008 Jun 23, 2008
I see that mnr has made this survey announcement and a developer conference announcement so I stand corrected, thanks for the information Harbs, maybe Mark will even respond himself.
I don't see where anyone from Adobe has ever answered a question but I have not read every forum post so I could be wrong about that as well.
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Guest
Jun 23, 2008 Jun 23, 2008
Hi James,

Sorry for not including a complete signature. I am the Developer Evangelist for the Creative Suite, including Illustrator, InDesign, Photoshop, Bridge, Version Cue and others.

I noticed that MacNet identified me as a VP of development. Not true - and I'm not all that far up the food chain. But I do work for Adobe, and the survey - although it appears on my personal site - is being run to research an Adobe question.

MNR
Adobe Developer Evangelist
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LEGEND ,
Jun 29, 2008 Jun 29, 2008
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(Why does the Edit page not allow for deletion of a post during the edit time limit? I exceeded the allowed length; the edit page gives no warning that the message will be truncated; so I gave up on re-typing it.)
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