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Too many anchor points after expand

Explorer ,
Nov 02, 2016 Nov 02, 2016

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Here is a stroke with variable width profile 4. When I expand the stroke, Illustrator produces a whole bunch of unnecessary points. Why isn't Illustrator capable of producing a lesser amount of points? Is it a bug? I would understand the amount of points if the stroke had rough edges, but this is a predefined variable width profile. Are there any settings where I can change this? I can't remember this being an issue before.

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Community Beginner , Nov 12, 2024 Nov 12, 2024

Thank you! Looks like that was the issue. It was at 100. I changed it to 50 and got a normal amount of points.

 

We need to use envelopes as part of our workflow. They hold the integrity of the shape better than just the warp effect. These are all pre-existing elements that I'm working with, so I don't have much flexibilty.

 

Thank you so much! 

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Community Expert ,
Nov 02, 2016 Nov 02, 2016

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You could try Object>Path>Simplify and work with the options there.

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Mentor ,
Nov 02, 2016 Nov 02, 2016

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It has always been an issue. The best way to fix it is with the Smart Remove Brush, which is part of the VectorScribe toolset from Astute Graphics.

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New Here ,
Sep 29, 2019 Sep 29, 2019

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I know this comment is three years old but this wasn't always an issue. I just upgraded from CS6 to CC and this never happened in CS6. The stroke in the top image would have been expanded to maybe 5 points instead of dozens. I've been searching for a solution myself because this is ridiculous.

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Explorer ,
Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Hi, has a solution been found for this issue yet? Or perhaps there’s a smart workaround?

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Community Expert ,
Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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The expanding should be better in the current version.

Apart from that you can use Object > Path > Simplify

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Explorer ,
Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Unfortunately, in the current version, the expanding creates the same results as pookeyblow showed in 2016.

With some geometrical shapes, the simplify function creates too rough results.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Please post screenshots.

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Explorer ,
Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Community Expert ,
Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Please tell us the version number from "About Illustrator"

 

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Explorer ,
Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Version 28.6

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Adobe Employee ,
Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Thanks for confirming the Illustrator version. I understand the frustration with having too many anchor points after expanding. To better assist you, could you please share a sample file where this issue occurs? I can then get it checked with the product team and see if there's a possible solution or workaround available. Thank you!
 
Best,
Anshul Saini

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Explorer ,
Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Hi @Anshul_Saini,

 

thank you very much for your support!

Here is the file.

 

Best,

Robert

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Adobe Employee ,
Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Hello @rgrund,

Thanks for sharing the details. Kindly allow me some time while I check this with the team.

Feel free to reach out if you have more questions or need assistance. We'd be happy to help.

 

Thanks,
Anubhav

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 11, 2024 Nov 11, 2024

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Good morning! I was wondering if there was ever a resolve or suggestion to address this. I just started having this issue recently. Here's an example. While "simplify" worked decently well in this case, I find that it doesn't always produce clean results. Plus, should I really have to do that extra step? It seems there should be some sort of tolerance setting I can adjust related to Expand. 

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Community Expert ,
Nov 11, 2024 Nov 11, 2024

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I prefer the Super Smart Remove function in Astute Graphics' Vector First Aid plugin over the stock Simplify command in Illustrator. But that is an after market plugin that requires an annual subscription (Astute Graphics' plugins are worth it, IMHO).

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Community Expert ,
Nov 11, 2024 Nov 11, 2024

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michellen,

 

you applied an Envelope Distort through the Object menu, didn't you?

 

If so, you may take a look at the Envelope Options dialog. There is a fidelity section. The higher you set the fidelity there, the more anchor points you get after expanding the envelope. Play a bit with this setting and check how it will reduce the number of anchor points of the expanded object.

 

Also, take a look at the Warp effects in the Effect menu. Usually they produce pretty clean results after expanding their appearance in the Object menu.

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Thank you! Looks like that was the issue. It was at 100. I changed it to 50 and got a normal amount of points.

 

We need to use envelopes as part of our workflow. They hold the integrity of the shape better than just the warp effect. These are all pre-existing elements that I'm working with, so I don't have much flexibilty.

 

Thank you so much! 

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