Type:effects or layout first?

I would say add effects afterward. But if you do add effects and don't want them to get messed up. make sure you always expanded the object with the effects you added Just makes it easier to work with.

The effects are usually a fill and stroke. I would like to place the type on either a path or Effect>Warp> Flag.

I haven't attempted this with a 3-D effect, but I would like to in the future.

Thank you all for answering!

Any effect in Ai follows path changes and re=build effect again.

Illustrator includes a variety of effects, which you can apply to an object, group, or layer to change its characteristics.

Once you apply an effect to an object, the effect appears in the Appearance panel. From the Appearance panel, you can edit the effect, move it, duplicate it, delete it, or save it as part of a graphic style. When you use an effect, you must expand the object before you can access the new points.

The effects in the top half of the Effects menu are vector effects. You can apply these effects only to vector objects or to the fill or stroke of a bitmap object in the Appearance panel. The following effects and effects categories from the top section are exceptions to this rule and can be applied to both vector and bitmap objects: 3D effects, SVG Filters, Warp effects, Transform effects, Drop Shadow, Feather, Inner Glow, and Outer Glow.

The effects in the bottom half of the Effects menu are raster effects. You can apply them to either vector or bitmap objects.

For a video on using the Appearance panel and the Graphics Styles panel, see www.adobe.com/go/lrvid4022_ai .

catg85195842  wrote Hi, When working with type in a headline: does it matter what I do first:

It might matter or it might not. Such decisions can't really be generalized this way. To get specific guidance you'll have to provide a detailed description of what you're doing.

What kind of effects are you talking about?

Can you please be a bit more specific?

Also: have you just tried out what you want to do?