Type on path moves when resizing objects

[GriffinGrace]

I have created a suite of icons that have live type on a circular path. When I resize these (by dragging the corners) the type jumps off its original orientation and I have to reset it again - see screen grab.

This doesn't happen if I scale it using the % field and I need the type to be live in order to develop more icons.

I have had this trouble for many years and just manually reset them all. Any one have any suggestions??

Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1
Adobe Illustrator 2024 28.5

[Anubhav M]

Hello @GriffinGrace,

I'm sorry to hear about your experience. I tried replicating this on my end but was unable to do so. Would you mind sharing some more details, like the exact details of your workflow, if Illustrator behaves this way with all files and, if not, a public link to a sample file after uploading it to Dropbox/Google Drive/etc., and a screen recording of the entire workflow (https://adobe.ly/44XSf3G), so we can investigate this further?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thanks,

Anubhav

[GriffinGrace]

Hi Anubhav
It happens on every file that has type on a path.

My workflow in the instance of the recording:
- I copied and pasted from my master artwork.

- held Shift to scale and dragged the corners out.

Once it has flipped, I have to manually set each icon back up again. 

[Jess Telmanik]

Hi @GriffinGrace I'm curious, were these originally created in Illustrator Desktop, Web or iPad?

[GriffinGrace]

All created on my Desktop. Mac Studio, using Adobe 24 - 28.5

[Jess Telmanik]

Thank you @GriffinGrace Very odd bug here, but Sonoma has seemed to cause some very weird glitches overall. I hope this is resolved soon for you!

[GriffinGrace]

Hi Anubhav... any ideas?

I saw some old posts from 2019, 21, 23 - with no resolution either.
It is a really bad bug!

[GriffinGrace]

Hi Anubhav, please find attached a link to a broken file.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9woulu1hu40yp8cayqxs1/BrokenType.ai?rlkey=pae4761pwdq41n7djg0mnqtv8&s...

[GriffinGrace]

Hi again.

Any chance you have had a look at this?

How do I go about highlighting this thread to get assistance?

Thanks

[Ares Hovhannesyan]

Usually when user dragging text on path with mouse and it flips to other side. Alt prevent that jumping. Does it helps you?

[GriffinGrace]

Thank you for your suggestion. No help with Alt either.

[Mike_Gondek]

What happens if you use scale tool instead of dragging corners?

Try outlining the type or making a symbol, then scaling.

[GriffinGrace]

Thank you for your suggestion.
The scale tool is ok, but I don't always know what size I want it to be.
I need the fonts live in order to create a suite. Once I get to Final Artwork, I have to outline it.

[Mike_Gondek]

Yes I had a suspected you may desire the fonts to be editable, but that tells me valuable information about your problem that it resides in the live fonts.

You can use the scale tool without knowing the final size. Select object, hold down shift, then click and drag.

If you still need help, can you post a copy of the file, we can better troubleshoot if this is a font issue or some setting is on the typography.  You can use google drive or similar to post a shareable link.

[GriffinGrace]

Hey Mike
"You can use the scale tool without knowing the final size. Select object, hold down shift, then click and drag." - this is exactly what I am doing.
I am a packaging designer. I need to be able to scale my artwork manually - ie, resizing a 500g pack to a 1kg pack with different proportions. The icons are usually locked in size with the rest of the artwork.

Here is a link with some of the icons. It does this every time I use type on a path. The large oval uses Adobe Fonts.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9woulu1hu40yp8cayqxs1/BrokenType.ai?rlkey=pae4761pwdq41n7djg0mnqtv8&s...

Thanks

Nat

[Jacob Bugge]

Griffin,

What happens if you add an independent oversize nostroke nofill circle outside each outermost circle, or just an oversize rectangle for all the circles, include those/that in the Artwork Group, and then ShiftClickDrag (and maybe hold Alt/Option to scale from the centre to avoid moving the whole thing?

[GriffinGrace]

Thanks Jacob
This doesn't work either. I feel like I have tried everything!! I am a packaging designer so often I am transforming these icons with other elements (empty or not) such as the dieline or other templates.

It happens on every instance of type on paths. Whether it is one element or many.

[atomicvibe]

I can confirm that in 28.7.1, the issue still persists. I have never experienced this issue until yesterday, and I was using whatever the previous release of Illustrator was. Since I had never experienced this phenomenon before, I checked CC to see if there was an Illustrator update, which there was. So I updated to 28.7.1, thinking the bug had been resolved, but it's still there. And Undo doesn't work in this situation.

See screenshots of this phenomenon. The first image depicts me clicking on the bottom right handle to resize. The second image shows how text moves on the circular path when shift-dragging to resize.

Clicking on resize handleResizing moves text on circular path