WHY can't I align the text on this logo?!

[radoslava645]

Hi Everyone and thank you for taking the time to try to help me!

My problem is related to text alignment. I am currently making a logo for a client in the health and fitness industry and I can't seem to properly align the text in their logo for some reason.

First I tried to use illustrator's alignment option on the font I used, but due to the kerning or something else, the automatic alignment looked really off.
Next, I turned the words into objects and tried using the same alignment options and the words looked a lot more aligned, however, when I check the spacing I find that there is a 4-pixel distance from one side and more than 10 pixels on the other side, making it uneven.

I attached the AI file, so you can have a look for yourselves and see if you can find a solution to this alignment issue.

Here's the link to the AI file: Visually Even.ai - Google Drive

Thanks in advance!

[SJRiegel]

Try Ungrouping the objects before aligning.

[radoslava645]

Thanks for the tip, but I have already ungrouped each word. I attached the file, so you can have a look at it yourself.

[SJRiegel]

radoslava645  wrote

I have already ungrouped each word. I attached the file, so you can have a look at it yourself.

I downloaded it and looked before commenting. When I opened it, the whole logo was grouped. (I don't have the fonts, but you can still see that it's grouped). Maybe that is due to a version difference or something. (I'm on 23.0.3 Mac)

[Bill Silbert]

In what way are you trying to align your type? Do you mean that you want the baselines of the letters in each word to align? Or are you talking about the space between letters? Or are you trying to center align all of the text under the "GTY"? If it is the last option then the fact that the shapes of the "G" and "Y" are so different means that alignment will always look a little off and should be adjusted, as best you can, visually.

Actually, the example. you've marked as "Original" looks more comfortable to me than the one that you've labelled "Visually Even".

[radoslava645]

Yeah, I was talking about the last option.

The original is the way I aligned it at first, while the text wasn't turned into objects.

The client said that it seemed off and requested me to align it better visually, that's why I created the other version "visually even"

[Monika Gause]

Geometrically centered is not the same as visually centered. And that's it.

[radoslava645]

Huh, can you explain the difference and how I can visually center the design?

[Bill Silbert · Accepted solution]

radoslava645  wrote

Yeah, I was talking about the last option.

The original is the way I aligned it at first, while the text wasn't turned into objects.

The client said that it seemed off and requested me to align it better visually, that's why I created the other version "visually even"

As I said in my first post. With end letters so different it always comes down to personal observation as to whether what is centered under them looks right visually.

[Monika Gause]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Bill+Silbert  schrieb

As I said in my first post. With end letters so different it always comes down to personal observation as to whether what is centered under them looks right visually.

This.

[jdanek]

The problem is with the GTY which is never going to look centered optically like GTO does because of the "Y" at the end. That is why your "visually centered" version looks better.  Forget about getting it literally centered.  Set the three lines of text as a centered paragraph.  Try not to mess with the three lines of text.