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Adjust Layout Options--retain object adjustment but lock ruler guides in place

Community Beginner ,
Feb 16, 2023 Feb 16, 2023

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Hello, all! Is there a way in CC22 to change the Adjust Layout options? I need this tool enabled so that text frames automatically resize to fit the margins when margins are changed, but I do not want the ruler guides I've set to move proportionally (or at all, even a little) when the margins are changed. Thanks!

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Feb 16, 2023 Feb 16, 2023

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You can lock your guides

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And the at the bottom untick the option to adjust locked items

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Feb 16, 2023 Feb 16, 2023

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Aha! Now that you've written it out for me it sounds so obvious hahaha. Thanks so much!

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 16, 2023 Feb 16, 2023

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Oop, I replied to this before thoroughly testing. This makes absolute sense, except it does not work. Maybe a bug in CC22? The guides still move when they have been locked and Adjust Locked Content is deselected. 

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Feb 16, 2023 Feb 16, 2023

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Can you place the guides on another layer and lock the entire layer?

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Feb 16, 2023 Feb 16, 2023

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Unfortunately no, they still move even when guides are locked and on their very own locked layer. Even going more overkill and manually locking each guide individually, and then on top of that locking guides from the View menu, and then locking the guides layer, all the ruler guides are still being proportionally moved with the margins. 

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Feb 17, 2023 Feb 17, 2023

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That's insane - I'd log that as a bug

https://www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html

 

I would like it to be possible to be scripted but I'm far from good enough for this

Perhaps @m1b  @rob day @Loic.Aigon can chime in.
I'm stumped.

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Feb 17, 2023 Feb 17, 2023

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Thanks, Eugene! Appreciate your time and help!

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Feb 17, 2023 Feb 17, 2023

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Perhaps I'm misreading this, but this helpx file seems to indicate this is a feature, not a bug. 

 

~Barb

 

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https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/adjust-layout.html

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Feb 17, 2023 Feb 17, 2023

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Yes - it's true that is the case. But if you lock them they should not move. 

There's is the option to adjust locked objects and it seems counter-intuitive. 

Surely if they're locked they shouldn't move when you select the option.

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Feb 17, 2023 Feb 17, 2023

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Hi Eugene:

 

Again, I could be misunderstanding, but Adobe uses the word objects to refer to frames (text, graphic and unassigned), and guides to refer to guides. 

 

~Barb

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Feb 17, 2023 Feb 17, 2023

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I still think it's a bug - if something is locked it shouldn't move. That's my understanding of it.

 

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Feb 17, 2023 Feb 17, 2023

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Either way report as a bug or a feature request.

 

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Feb 17, 2023 Feb 17, 2023

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Agreed, and will do! Thanks, all!

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Feb 17, 2023 Feb 17, 2023

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You could capture the positions of all the guides, adjust the layout, and reset the guides via a script. Here’s an example:

 

 

//the adjusted width and height
var la = {width:"6in", height:"9in"}

var doc = app.activeDocument;
//save the curent guide locations
var odg = doc.guides.everyItem().location
//setup the desired layout adjustment preferences
doc.adjustLayoutPreferences.properties = {
    allowFontSizeAndLeadingAdjustment:false, 
    allowLockedObjectsToAdjust:true, 
    enableAdjustLayout:true, 
    enableAutoAdjustMargins:true,
    imposeFontSizeRestriction:false}
doc.adjustLayout(la)

//set the guides to their old positions
var ndg = doc.guides.everyItem().getElements()
for (var i = 0; i < ndg.length; i++){
    ndg[i].locked = false;
    ndg[i].location = odg[i]
}; 

 

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