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June 26, 2023
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Adobe newbie - help!

  • June 26, 2023
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I designed a planner in Adobe InDesign and have already sold a LOT, so it can't be changed, but I miscalculated the pages I can get from each toner, so it's cost me a lot more than expected. The parent page for 95% of the pages is a full-size floral image, so I'm wondering if it's printing the entire image and then printing the boxes and trackers on top of it... do y'all think that is what could be using up my ink? If so, please tell me there's a simple QUICK fix. Thank you in advance!! 

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Scott Falkner
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 26, 2023

Your printer almost certainly cannot print white, so any white areas on your page are areas that do not, and never contained, toner. A black object completely covered with a white object will print as plank and use no toner or ink.

James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
June 26, 2023

Digital printing tends not to print all layers as separate elements, but as already discussed, the layers in the document can be configured to output or export in various ways.

 

A very simple point, though: printers don't print white, so if your "boxes and trackers" are largely white or a very pale tint — as I would assume they are, for writing purposes — there would be far less toner on those areas, regardless of what's under them on other layers.

 

In any case, a full-page image with little or no white or highlights is going to use a LOT of toner. In general, you want to keep color density down, across the page and pages, for things you're going to print on a home/office printer. Cartridges that will last 5,000 text pages will go dry in a few hundred full-image pages.

 

I think your options are to redesign the layout for less toner usage, take the job to a commercial printer for better/net-cheaper production, or just accept that your toner costs are going to eat into your profits.

Participating Frequently
June 26, 2023

Thank you for answering my questions and giving me other things to consider. I will be outsourcing next time! 

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
June 26, 2023

What is the reason that you can't outsource the rest of the current batch? 

 

Or even do the whole batch again - if color consistency is a must - depends on how far into this 67k you are? 

 

Randy Hagan
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 26, 2023

Is your floral image reproduced as full-color or black-and-white? What are you using for your laser printer? What kinds of volume are we talking about for producing your planner, both total run and on-demand? Any special binding or finishing? Have you got room for storing a larger run than you immediately need?

 

Sharing answers to these questions will help us help you find the best solution for producing your planners efficiently and economically.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Randy

 

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Participating Frequently
June 26, 2023

Is your floral image reproduced as full-color or black-and-white? Full color, with white boxes on top. What are you using for your laser printer? Brother. What kinds of volume are we talking about for producing your planner, both total run and on-demand? I'm not sure what you mean by this question, but this order is 67,000 sheets of paper. Any special binding or finishing? Yes, but I have that handled Have you got room for storing a larger run than you immediately need? Somewhat

 

Sharing answers to these questions will help us help you find the best solution for producing your planners efficiently and economically.

James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
June 26, 2023

The cost inefficiency here, never mind the cost-to-quality ratio, makes my head hurt.

 

This is well into the range where a commercial printer would do a much better job and probably for a fraction of the cost.

 

Commercial printing should be looked into for any job that involves more than 1-200 sheets or 2-3 copies of a document overall.

 

Next time, I guess.

Willi Adelberger
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 26, 2023

Bring it to a professioal printer. It will look better, is cheaper and color calculation is not your's.

 

Participating Frequently
June 26, 2023

next time 🙂

Michael Bullo
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 26, 2023

If you want to see how your document is getting separated out into the various inks you may want to explore the Separations Preview panel.

 

Window > Output > Separations Preview

 

Set the View option to Separations and click on the individual inks. You can activate multiple inks by clicking on the eyeball icons.

Participating Frequently
June 26, 2023

I was reading something about this last night.. should I activate or de-activate one of them, or will it compromise the printing?

Michael Bullo
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 26, 2023

This is an on screen preview thing and will not interfere with your printing.

Michael Bullo
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 26, 2023

Could you please post a screen shot that includes your Layers panel?

Participating Frequently
June 26, 2023