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AI file importing black in Indesign

Explorer ,
May 03, 2022 May 03, 2022

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Hi all, looking for some insights. I have an object that is a color in Illustrator, but imported into Indesign it shows up black. Any thoughts? Transparency is normal... it's CMYK in Ai....

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Community Expert , May 03, 2022 May 03, 2022

Could also be that there is a bug with the regular version of Illustrator 2022.

Is your compound path too complex to hold a gradient?

 

Ok. Instead of a compound path I used the pathfinder to create that paths.

Success! Finally I could apply a gradient that sticks after saving, closing and reopening the AI file with the regular version of Illustrator 2022. You could use my result to build your gradient on that again:.

 

Download the file from my Dropbox account:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1tph2tm1uwt0h1z/Cover_3-EDITED-AND-SAVED-2022-3-PathFinderTool.ai?dl=1

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May 03, 2022 May 03, 2022

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It might help to have more information on the Illustrator construct of that object. Is there a gradient mesh involved?

 

If you can post a screenshot of it selected in Illustrator with the Layers and Appearance panels in view, perhaps someone willl spot the potential issue.

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Yes... here's a screenshot. Thanks!

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Mentor ,
May 03, 2022 May 03, 2022

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How do you do an import? 

As place or as copy/paste?

 

Copy/pasting don't store many things, it used only for import "path".

Remember, never say you can't do something in InDesign, it's always just a question of finding the right workaround to get the job done. © David Blatner

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Mentor ,
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Sorry, what?

Remember, never say you can't do something in InDesign, it's always just a question of finding the right workaround to get the job done. © David Blatner

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I imported the file, using command D, I didn't copy and paste. It was imported...

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Is overprint preview in Illustrator shows your image "right"?

 

Give us .ai file to look through some Dropbox/yadisk

Remember, never say you can't do something in InDesign, it's always just a question of finding the right workaround to get the job done. © David Blatner

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  • What file type do you import? AI, EPS, PDF or SVG?
  • If PDF, what kind of PDF?

 

In InDesign go to  the Effects Panel:

  • Select object, what blending mode do you have?
  • Select the content with the direct selection tool, what blending mode do you have?

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The file is an AI file. Selecting the object and also direct selecting show a normal blend mode.

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Can you provide us the file with the linked graphic?

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I'm getting this error when I try to upload the file

 

  • The attachment's cover_2.ai content type (application/postscript) does not match its file extension and has been removed.

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The color is black, 100%K, nothing else.

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Hi Faith5C32,

thank you for the AI file.

Opened that with Adobe Illustrator 2022. The only color I see there is Black.

 

AI-File-Opened-with-Illustrator-2022.PNG

 

However, when I look at the preview of your AI file in the file system of Windows 10 it seems to be colored:

AI-File-Preview-in-File-System.PNG

 

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Uwe Laubender

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Did you create the file with a beta or prerelease version of Adobe Illustrator?

Looked into the code of your file and see this:

 

<illustrator:CreatorSubTool>AIRobin</illustrator:CreatorSubTool>

 

AIRobin could be an indication…

Saved your file with the current release version of Adobe Illustrator 2022 and visited that code again:

 

<illustrator:CreatorSubTool>Adobe Illustrator</illustrator:CreatorSubTool>

 

 

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Uwe Laubender

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To verify my assumption I saved an AI document from the currently available beta version of Illustrator 26.4.9.

And indeed the statement for the CreatorSubTool is indeed AIRobin. And I also had trouble to create a gradient fill with the free form gradient tool. It simply did not work on your filled paths. So, it could well be that when saved with a previous beta version your AI file is simply not usable.

 

See the details. Your file opened with the current beta release of Illustrator 26.4.9 where I added a gradient fill to your artwork:

 

AI-beta-26.4.9-AppliedGradient.png

 

Saved the file. Closed the file.

Selected the file to open it. The preview of Illustrator beta 26.4.9 is still showing the gradient:

AI-beta-26.4.9-AppliedGradient-SavedClosedReopened-1.png

 

But the gradient is gone when the file is open:

AI-beta-26.4.9-AppliedGradient-SavedClosedReopened-2.png

 

Never trust a beta version…

 

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Uwe Laubender

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Hm.

Just opened your AI file in the current released version of Illustrator 2022, added a gradient like I did this with the beta version, saved the file, opened it again. The gradient is gone. So your AI file is showing some strange corruption perhaps?

 

Next step: I copied your paths to a brand new document.

Released the compound path, did a new compound path, applied the gradient.

Saved the file, closed the file, reopened the file: gradient on the compound path is gone.

 

Well. That sounds serious.

Could be your original compound path from that beta version ?!

 

To proof that I did a new document, drew some new paths, did not use your artwork, made a compound path out of them, applied a gradient. Saved the file, closed the file, reopened the file. The gradient was still there.

 

So here is my suggestion:

Start from scratch with the regular version of Illustrator and do that artwork again.

 

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Uwe Laubender

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Could also be that there is a bug with the regular version of Illustrator 2022.

Is your compound path too complex to hold a gradient?

 

Ok. Instead of a compound path I used the pathfinder to create that paths.

Success! Finally I could apply a gradient that sticks after saving, closing and reopening the AI file with the regular version of Illustrator 2022. You could use my result to build your gradient on that again:.

 

Download the file from my Dropbox account:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1tph2tm1uwt0h1z/Cover_3-EDITED-AND-SAVED-2022-3-PathFinderTool.ai?dl=1

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Thank you thank you.

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Thank you so much for all the replies, everyone. I appreciate it so much. Unfortunately I didn't create the file myself - it was a Vectorstock download - so I didn't have total control over the file from the start.

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"Unfortunately I didn't create the file myself - it was a Vectorstock download - so I didn't have total control over the file from the start."

 

I hope you did not pay money for this. If you did not open it in Illustrator, it should be clear that it was last saved in a beta version of Illustrator. That's one point. The other one: there obviously was no quality control at all.

 

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