AI line breaking optimization for InDesign

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November 28, 2024
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There are many exciting AI tools from Adobe, but sometimes it would be nice if AI would simply simplify the less exciting work steps a little. e.g. the options to have the line breaking optimization implemented directly with AI via the paragraph formats and to control how strongly this is implemented. Or integrate an option for the GREP styles where we could control the microtypographical adjustments as required by simply entering text instead of defining these settings with code.

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James Gifford—NitroPress

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I'm sure one day ID will be reduced to one button that says "Complete this project for me." 🙂

Until then, what you're talking about is mostly esthetic choices that are adjusted if the generic settings and fairly "intelligent" algorithms for adjusting type aren't quite to your liking. AI would just use a different set of guesses about how the text should appear. But, I suppose, it would do so without all those tedious numbers and judgment.

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e__zAuthor

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Yes, but we also have design programs for precisely these “aesthetic decisions”. Or have I misunderstood you? I would simply prefer practical AI solutions in the existing programs rather than bloated new AI products or image optimizations that work more poorly than well. Rag refinement doesn't seem to me to be simply an aesthetic choice, you don't do the optical equalization of a shape in the font design because you personaly think you like it better this way.

Joel Cherney

Community Expert

I follow. But ragged right depends almost entirely on the 'break over' margin that determines if the app will try to fit a word there, and the sophistication of the hyphenation that will both create wordlets of a desirable length and look ahead/back to prevent stacks of hyphens.

Nearly all of the other line spacing settings apply more to justified text. In my experience, the refined defaults in most apps do a good job with this unless you're working with a nonstandard vocabulary that has many long, hard-to-break words.

There's always room for improvement in the fine details of typography, which is why it's an art. My obvious preference is that designers should learn the art rather than rely on canned intelligence to apply it for them. 🙂

vocabulary that has many long, hard-to-break words.

So, @e__z, in what language are you getting a bad rag that requires lots of manual line-riding? Russian? Finnish? Armenian? Somali? What language with long hard-to-break words is it? Because I'd absolutely agree, the rag that the Adobe Paragraph Composer produces with default settings in many non-English languages is... not as good as one would hope. But I find myself basically in agreement with James' comments above regarding judgment and aesthetic tweaks, even in languages where riding the lines can be a struggle, such as Russian or Somali.

I am not certain that the InDesign devs would even be be able to deploy current gen AI in the service of improving the default-settings rag, but like you, I'd far rather see them trying to do that than trying to implement new AI expand-this-picture features, or whatever the flavor of the month happens to be. That being said, I'd personally be rather more in favor of devoting that dev effort to anything at all that was not related to AI.

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