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Align different sized text

Explorer ,
May 14, 2023 May 14, 2023

Hi Im simply trying to align left different sized text

I've read the community posts and googled re: why it occurs, the sloppy fixes (the best is to convert by "create oulines"), etc

Surely this is a bug that has been fixed?

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Community Expert , May 16, 2023 May 16, 2023

Adjust the Paragraph Style’s Bullet or Number Position setting:

 

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Community Expert ,
May 14, 2023 May 14, 2023

acrobat?

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in the future, to find the best place to post your message, use the list here, https://community.adobe.com/

 

p.s. i don't think the adobe website, and forums in particular, are easy to navigate, so don't spend a lot of time searching that forum list. do your best and we'll move the post if it helps you get responses.

 

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Explorer ,
May 14, 2023 May 14, 2023

Im so glad you mentioned how difficult the forums and website is to navigate. I feel like a noob everytime i come here (twice a year)

I realy would appreciate if you could move my post if that isn't a big imposition. i could be here another half hour, as i was posting the last post

 

thank you

sean

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Community Expert ,
May 14, 2023 May 14, 2023

i moved it to the acrobat forum.  is that the app you're using or would indesign be better?

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Explorer ,
May 14, 2023 May 14, 2023

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Explorer ,
May 14, 2023 May 14, 2023

Just realised that i posted to Acrobat despite me searching the InDesign forums

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Community Expert ,
May 15, 2023 May 15, 2023

[MOVED TO THE INDESIGN DISCUSSIONS]


Acrobate du PDF, InDesigner et Photoshopographe
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LEGEND ,
May 15, 2023 May 15, 2023

The text looks left aligned to me (allowing for design overhang in the individual characters - which was absolutely deliberate). There is no bug if that's how the font was designed, it would be a bug to ignore the font's design.

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Community Expert ,
May 15, 2023 May 15, 2023

Hi @Sean5CF1 , This comes up occasionally—the cause is the font’s metrics not an InDesign bug. All fonts include a side bearing dimension, and InDesign’s text alignment is optical which can be adjusted somewhat via the Story panel’s Optical Margin Alignment setting.

 

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If you want to align a specific character you would have to kern a space before—see David Blatner’s CreativePro article here:

 

https://creativepro.com/removing-space-along-left-edge/

 

 

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Explorer ,
May 15, 2023 May 15, 2023

Thanks Rob

Researched all this previously and read the articles

Using optical margin alignment reconfigures all bullet points and headings alignment in the same text frame 

My whole 600 page manual has only 1 font with consistent formatting throughout. 

 

 

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Community Expert ,
May 15, 2023 May 15, 2023
  1. That is not a bug. It is part of the font design. The designer does not want a geometric pure line, an optical alignment is important.
  2. Never outline text in InDesign. It is a no-go. The only purpose to convert fonts to outline is for graphic purposes like filling a letter with an image or to manipulate a letter.
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Explorer ,
May 15, 2023 May 15, 2023

Thanks Willi

While this might be true (designers not wanting a geometric pure line), it looks sloppy

Optical alignment changes all following bullet and heading alignment in the same text box

So far outlining text is the only pure fix i have found, whether im using it to align text (manuipulate a letter) or for graphic design purposes. But this is also sloppy

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Community Expert ,
May 15, 2023 May 15, 2023

Optical Margin Alignment usage:

 

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The text’s OMA set to the header’s point size

 

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Explorer ,
May 15, 2023 May 15, 2023

As above Rob

Bullets realign

Attempts to correct bullets leads to unwanted spaces - a similar space i try to remove initially

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Note while etxt shifts right, all bullets shift left

 

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May 16, 2023 May 16, 2023

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Community Expert ,
May 16, 2023 May 16, 2023

Adjust the Paragraph Style’s Bullet or Number Position setting:

 

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Explorer ,
May 16, 2023 May 16, 2023
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Thanks Rob

 

I think this is going to be the best option. I'll have to reconfigure styles throughout manual but i don't see any other 'sinlge click' simple option

 

thanks so much

sean

 

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