Anchored Objects - Unusable functionality design - NEED FIX ASAP

Community Beginner ,
Jul 16, 2022 Jul 16, 2022

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Dear Adobe,

I'm working on a book project, and need to insert pictures which flow with the text. You have Anchored Objects to facilitate this. But the functionality of Anchored Objects is horribly designed and poorly implemented and makes laying out books nearly impossible. This is unacceptable.

 

I inserted many pictures in relation to the text. I add text wrap and corner rounding styles. I have to adjust some text or add a picture in the text preceding it, and the text flows around the subsequent images, making them now positioned in the wrong area of text.

 

To address this problem I research online and find out about Anchored Objects. I can't right-click on my already placed pictures and create anchored objects out of them. NO that would be GOOD design! Why would you do THAT?

 

I have to now create new Anchored Objects. So I select my picture and go to Object/Anchored Objects, and all options are greyed out. Why? I have to have nothing selected. So I deselect all objects, return to the menu, and have to Insert an object. But nothing happens. Why? Because I need to first set an input point in the text, by putting the text cursor somewhere in the body. Ideally it would be at the beginning of the paragraph in which I want to picture to be attached to. Makes sense right? WRONG! Adobe's great idea is that it has to be inserted into the line ABOVE the paragraph in order for text wrap to move the first line of the following paragraph in which the picture is to be wrapping text around itself.

 

Ok I do this, but hang on, the area of the picture is sometimes BLANK! Why's this? Somehow the Anchored Object is behind the text box, ok no problem, move it above it. DOESN'T WORK! Why? No Idea. Ok select the text box, send it behind, works! Great!

 

Another problem, the preceding text needs adjusting to clean up an orphan line, but the Anchored Objects stay on the page they were added to, they don't flow across pages!!! WTH!?! What is the use of an anchored picture next to text if it can't flow across pages with the text?!?!

 

This is so impossibly frustrating I feel compelled to make my own app and put Adobe out of business. Fix this or else! It seems like Adobe never listens to their customers. They're happy to be the monopoly and just let bad situations like this linger for decades.

 

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Adobe Community Professional , Jul 16, 2022 Jul 16, 2022

Please post feature requests here: https://indesign.uservoice.com. The community forums are here to help users understand how to use the software. We can't fix anything.

 

Two thoughts:

  1. Consider implementing Keep settings as part of your paragraph styles—that will avoid the need for manual page breaks.
  2. Anchor your frames to an otherwise empty ¶ with the typesize set to 0.1 pt, 0 leading, 0 vertical spacing. The shortcut to anchor is to drag from the blue box to the anchor position. See demo, be
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Jul 16, 2022 Jul 16, 2022

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Please post feature requests here: https://indesign.uservoice.com. The community forums are here to help users understand how to use the software. We can't fix anything.

 

Two thoughts:

  1. Consider implementing Keep settings as part of your paragraph styles—that will avoid the need for manual page breaks.
  2. Anchor your frames to an otherwise empty ¶ with the typesize set to 0.1 pt, 0 leading, 0 vertical spacing. The shortcut to anchor is to drag from the blue box to the anchor position. See demo, below. 

 

~Barb

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jul 18, 2022 Jul 18, 2022

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As Barb suggests is the way you would normally work in indesign to solve the kind of problem you have. (I would use an object style for my anchored images, then I could make them align with the outer edge of my columns), I would add a Keep Option so that the paragraph containing image must "Keep with Next" so that an anchored image cannot extend below the text area. it is possible to set how many lines you need to include withe the image.

Any powerful feature requires some learning, but the time you invest you will have back multiplied. 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jul 16, 2022 Jul 16, 2022

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Anchored object have many many options besides the in-line option you seem to use, like achoring relative to spine (so it 'flips' position when it lands on the opposite page), absolute to margin etc. I've done many, many complex books with all these options. Maybe you should dive a little deeper in the test of the options?

https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/anchored-objects.html

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jul 17, 2022 Jul 17, 2022

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On a side issue, are you using Paragraph (and Character) Styles?

You seem to be using carriage returns for line spacing; a subtler space (e.g. half a line paragraph space) would look better. But note, it's good practice for paragraphs to either have an indent or line spacing, not both!

Also, are you using a base-line grid – it's a very helpful facility for this kind of layout.

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jul 17, 2022 Jul 17, 2022

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Left of the righ corner is a square. Drag it to the place, where you want the object to be anchored.

Or copy/cut the image into clipboard, change to the text tool, insert the curser where. you want it to be anchored and paste it there in the text mode.

 

I would strngly recommend to book a basic InDesign class. There is not a poor implementation of a fuctionality.

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Jul 18, 2022 Jul 18, 2022

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The frustration is understandable, but the remedy is not complicated. Step back, put in some study time and learn how to use Anchored Objects correctly. It is much easier than you've been making it.

Keep in mind that you are working with a mature tool built for industrial-grade production. At your level of experience, if you can't make something work it is far more likely that you have a gap in your knowledge than that the feature is broken and nobody else has noticed. Make your default thought, "There's something here I don't understand." Ask for help, dig into some tutorials, or both.

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Jul 18, 2022 Jul 18, 2022

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Excellent advice!

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