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Explorer ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

I'm making a document (iD) which I want to export both as an epub and an interactive pdf.

(I know each of those have to be set up a little differently at export)

It's mainly illustrations as jpegs, half pg and pg; 8x5.5", 8x11".

There seems to be an issue with the navigation in epub, is this a known thing. I've tried to read about it but it seemed a bit advanced for me; coding?

In pdf(interactive) I had used the text (titles) in the contents as hyperlinks to the images but right now I don't recognize the links that are available when I attempt this thru the new hyperlink window, how can I make sure only the images I want in that document are the ones I'm choosing from?

paste=link?

place=?

Thank you. Allen

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Community Expert ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

What EXACTLY is the issue? A bit more of a description might help.

What version of InDesign? Fixed Layout or Reflowable EPUB? How are you viewing it?

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Explorer ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

new.JPG

sorry and thanks for the reply, I'm using cc19. What I'm trying to do is pretty straight forward I believe but I find myself stuck. I place all the images, does that link them or embed them?

is there a known prob/fix with navigation when exporting to reflowable epub; next page, prev pg, contents as buttons and none work.?

before any exporting, when trying to create page navigation, -table of contents to a page- using the 'shared hyperlink destination' option in the 'new' hyperlink window <ABOVE> the destinations I can choose from (where 'none' is) are not from the document I'm trying to create but from earlier docs, the one you see, the aros52819 is the file but the links that drop down are not from that doc at all. How can I make sure that when I place an image that it will be available to me using this method?

Thanks

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Community Expert ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

Since it appears that this is an EPUB project, I'm moving the discussion to the InDesign EPUB forum.

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Explorer ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

I've viewed in on Ms Edge, and in the epub preview window

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Community Expert ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

That is rather unclear explanation but based on what I can figure out, there are huge problems with this.

Reflowable epubs do not have pages. You can try navigation to text anchors which might work depending upon the epub reader but trying to reuse PDF interactivity is going to be an exercise in futility.

Finally, shared hyperlinks have always been troublesome. I never use them.

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Explorer ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

sorry for the confusion

reflow epubs; when you say they have no pages do they go by frames and/or is there native navigation within the epub format (not sure if formats the right word)? My 'pages' are basically an image, the text is contained within. If I wanted a reader to be able to pick images from the table of contents, would a frame be a destination and what would you use for the source?

what do you use instead of shared hyperlinks

I actually made an interactive pdf a few years ago but just used html but I'm using inDesign to make it easier, haha

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Community Expert ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

This does not sound like a job for a reflowable epub. These tend to be mostly text with an a image here and there.

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Explorer ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

interactive pdf then?

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Community Expert ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

What about it?

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Explorer ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

if not shared hyperlinks, what would you use to link the title in contents to the image? I tried hyperlink -to page, but it said thats not done in interactive pdf's. I went into this with the idea it would be at least as easy as back a few years ago when I did one with html but have run into image size problems, navigation issues, source-destination confusion...

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Community Expert ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

Maybe you should show us some screenshots? I'm really having a tough time visualizing this.

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Explorer ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

I have some jpeg images, no text on pages. I made a table of contents (all text)

titles hyperlinked.JPGand then highlighted each title to create a hyperlink to the corresponding image/page. Each page consists of one image like a regular picture book. Theres a poem but  part of the jpeg, so no text.

pages.JPGOn the master I put next, prev, home (contents) as buttons, buttons on master.JPGthey seem to work on the exported pdf.

In the new hyperlink window I tried 'shared', new.JPGthat doesn't work because I can't find the files in the shared dropdown list. I tried to link to a page but that doesn't work with interactive pdfs, nor does it seem to be working when I link it to the file (on my computer). It ALL works beautifully in the swf preview....

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Explorer ,
May 29, 2019 May 29, 2019

since theres no text I can't link to text, theres no paragraph styles either

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Explorer ,
May 29, 2019 May 29, 2019

I am trying to create and link to a page anchor now.

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Community Expert ,
May 30, 2019 May 30, 2019

What you need is all contained in these two video. Your interactive PDF and your epub will have different things that will need to be done for each. I suggest you watch these two videos. They will give you most of the tools you need to work through your document. If you get stuck somewhere in that process, feel free to reach back out.

InDesign: Hyperlink to Anchor - YouTube

How to Create an Interactive ePUB with Adobe InDesign CC - YouTube

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Explorer ,
May 30, 2019 May 30, 2019

Bob, it's pretty rude to request something from someone and then ignore them, thanks a lot bub.

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Engaged ,
May 30, 2019 May 30, 2019

Easy now. Check time stamps of the post. It was late. It's also still early the next day and the guy probably has a job. Your posts are confusing to follow, to be honest. I'm not trying to be mean! But it looks like there are a few issues going on and the task seems difficult relative to your InDesign experience.

As mentioned earlier, reflowable EPUB is exactly as it's described. Text flows through the book as water would into a container. There literally are no pages as you and I perceive a physical book. It's just text and runs on until the document ends. Technically you do "see" page separations, but the user will have the option to change the font face, size, and a few other parameters using whatever device they're viewing it on. So in a reflowable document, you might view the font at 12 points and can see 5 paragraphs on the screen; OR, you (or anyone else) could use your device to change the font to like 32pt and then only see 2 paragraphs on the same screen. The larger (and now extra) text then simply "flows" to the next screen as your current screen overflows. So there's some confusion there on where you're coming from in regard to your intent with the document.

Fixed-width EPUB is more for like image-heavy documents like a children's book. In that case, you know the exact width and height of each page and have an idea of exactly where you want your text to be, visually. Basic trade off is of course being "fixed," content will NOT "reflow" as the earlier example would. There are other trade offs, of course, but no need to get into the weeds.

As to the issue with your navigation and such, maybe simplify some of the information for everyone.

  1. What is it that you are creating?
  2. What is your end game? I mean, you want to share this to be viewed on a tablet? Web page? Something else?
  3. How do you plan for your reader to navigate the document? "In a perfect world, I want the user to...."
  4. Your screen capture of the table of  contents is very blurry. Could be my end, but could you post another sample of that?
  5. Also, maybe a screen capture of one of your pages like how you  did with the Master Page? The more context everyone has, the more everyone might pick up what it is you're doing.
  6. Simplify your descriptions

Without seeing a clear sample of your Table of Contents, I'm only guessing at this point. First, be mindful of the terminology. Table of Contents is a specific element that InDesign can create dynamically. Usually you build a document with paragraph styles and apply these styles to your header text. You can then build a ToC referencing those header styles and InDesign spits out a list of linked text entries for your document. It APPEARS as though you are using shapes as a sort of table of contents?  Like maybe thumbnails or images that when clicked, you want to jump to a specific page in your doc?

On that assumption, maybe instead of hyperlinks use the Buttons and Forms panel. Windows/Interactive/Buttons and Form. You  can convert your thumbnails (or whatever) to buttons. Then, using the Buttons and Forms panel, set actions to them like "On Release, Goto Destination." Actions should be grouped based on output form so some may work in EPUB, others may not. Just be aware I guess.

As to the whole shared links thing, don't use "Shared Destination" as that can create all kinds of grief. I'm not saying avoid it forever and always, but I doubt that's really what you need here. If you end up using buttons, then that shared link thing may fix itself.

Anyway, I'm rambling while not really understanding what's going on in the thread so I may be making things worse. Either way, good luck!

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Community Expert ,
May 28, 2019 May 28, 2019

Reflowable ePubs are in a sense one HTML page, so that when the user changes the type size and/or page size device the pages reflow. The layout needs to be a simple one column of text with headings (all needing Paragraph (and Character) Styles and images anchored to the text.

An Interactive PDF is a completely different format from an ePub.

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Advocate ,
May 30, 2019 May 30, 2019

You might also want to have a look at this video:

Export to EPUB |

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May 30, 2019 May 30, 2019
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