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Can I prevent a line break after the end-bracket characters?

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March 4, 2024
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I use a special font, on which the two end-bracket characters ] } have a different image, which fits with others, and I do not want a line break after these symbols.

But Indesign seems to consider that this is an ideal spot to start a new line. Inserting a discretionary hyphen (before or after the sequence that I want unbroken) does not prevent it. If there is a regular hyphen just one character later, InDesign nonetheless wants to break after the bracket. For example:

Hfh-RNa-B]b-Ga-

is broken

Hfh-RNa-B]

b-Ga-

(In this case, another couple characters could fit on the top line.)

I have fiddled with hyphenation, turned it off, that doesn't fix it. (INDD doesn't add a hyphen, it doesn't think it is hyphenating a word.) I tried adding B]b to the user dictionary, that didn't help. Resetting language to All Languages didn't help.

It does not happen with opening brackets, nor with < >

Earlier INDD versions did not do this.

But for now, is there any way to prevent it? Ideally, within preferences or paragraph style, but even a way to fix individual cases would be helpful.

And REQUEST: Can this feature be dropped? Even people using normal brackets, sometimes will not want a new line there unless there is a space after the bracket.

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Correct answer Eugene Tyson

You could add it to.tje grep styles too to apply no break

Or add an invisible character called a non-joiner after them by doing search and replace.

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Sasha35843819wyd6Author

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This is a followup to an earlier question, it should perhaps be a new post but I can't figure out how to do that, and it's related to this, so I'll try here.

We use a special font, on which the two end-bracket characters ] } have a different symbol, and we do not want a new line after these symbols.

But Indesign is tries hard to start a new line after these brackets.

I inquired about this in March and got a good solution from Eugene Tyson: put the invisible non-joiner character after the bracket. (It's at Type / Insert Special character / other / non-joiner).

Or, better for us because there's a lot of them: Search-and-replace, changing each bracket to bracket plus ^j

BUT: Now we're creating a lot of text from a database, exporting it as TXT (ANSI - we have more symbols in the 128-255 range). I would like to include this non-joiner character when we export, to avoid doing search-and-replace each time, but haven't been able to find a way. Inserting ^j just makes those show up as ordinary characters.

Perhaps there is a unicode character, but I don't think that would work for us, we need to export as ANSI text.

In short, we just need a way to tell InDesign, as it imports ("places") text, that ^j should be interpreted as the special character. It understands that with search-and-replace. Is there a coding to use for text imports that would allow us to do this?

(I have tried using n-breaks and GREP styles, with no success. I'm hoping for just a simple way to insert ^j into a txt file, so it is recognized as a special code.)

Thank you!

Peter Kahrel

Community Expert

I don't think there's a setting for this, but you can apply n-break to those two characters with a single replacement. In the GREP tab of the Find/Change dialog, look for [}\]] and set no-break in the Change Format panel.

As to requests, submit them at https://indesign.uservoice.com

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Eugene Tyson

Correct answer

Community Expert

You could add it to.tje grep styles too to apply no break

Or add an invisible character called a non-joiner after them by doing search and replace.

S

Sasha35843819wyd6Author

Participant

Thank you very much. Adding the non-joiner character AFTER the end-bracket
fixed the problem. Moreover, I can do a search-and-replace throughout the
document. (the character is ^j ) For my particular problem, this is working
better than using the no-break.

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Peter Kahrel

Community Expert

Apply no-break to the sequence you want to keep together and see whether that fixes the problem.

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Sasha35843819wyd6Author

Participant

Thanks for the fast reply. I had not known about the No Break feature, and that is VERY helpful for individual cases.

But this comes up a lot. I'd like to find a way to over-ride the InDesign property (or whatever it's called) which makes the program downright eager to put a line break after the two end-bracket symbols. Any suggestions?

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