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Changes to Pantone Color Books

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July 18, 2022
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Some of the Pantone Color Books that are pre-loaded in Adobe Illustrator, InDesign, and Photoshop will be phased out from future software updates starting in August 2022. To access the complete set of Pantone Color Books, Pantone requires customers to purchase a premium license through Pantone Connect and install a plug-in using Adobe Exchange.

For more information, please refer to the following FAQ pages:

HelpX: Pantone FAQ (Illustrator)

HelpX: Pantone FAQ (InDesign)

HelpX: Pantone FAQ (Photoshop)

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Pretty annoyed

New Participant

This is super annoying! Why has Adobe done this? Please reconsider having accessiblity to pantone colours back in your applications.

@mj

Community Expert

Hi @Rishabh_Tiwari ,

Please consider giving a warning dialog for Pantone colors instead of taking it to Black.

Highlight colors like missing fonts. Then allow users to convert the colours to:

CMYK
RGB
Hex
Other supported spot color palettes like DIC, Toyo, Focoltone.

This workflow would be way more helpful

Thnx

mj

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Eugene Tyson

Community Expert

Report bugs or make a feature request

https://www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html

alanw45989708

New Participant

This is ridiculous! Adobe should cover this additional cost. Why is it up to us to cover the cost. Is it the reason why I subscribe to CC to cover all cost related to any applicaton under the Adobe's umbrella. Adobe do better!

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Eugene Tyson

Community Expert

Why should they? It's not part of Adobe.

You can buy a subscription - last check was about $50 a year.

Pass the cost on to the consumer.

Plus - you can still access all the Pantones from previous files and use them - nothing stopping you doing that.
Adobe Bridge can help you find files containing certain colours.

Other than that - that's the way it's going.

Nothing Adobe can do about it - for now.

Pantone want people to get their own subscription.

rob day

Community Expert

I wouldn't be surprised if PANTONE does eventually create a bot to search our files, whether on our computers or at a print shop, and determines that we have swatch PANTONE 485 in the palette but no license to use it. Hello lawyers!

??? Does that mean because I have an Adobe subscription they can search my local files, or even the files I store on their cloud servers??? If that’s the case we need to abandon all of our subscriptions—Pantone colors would be the least of our worries.

Maybe @Rishabh_Tiwari can confirm, but I don’t think there is any move to drop .acb support in future InDesign versions, so the current installed .acb files could be copied into a new version’s Swatch Libraries folder—you just wouldn’t have access to the newest Pantone colors.

Also, I’m not seeing any problem with sharing document’s that contain swatches that are not available in the installed .acb files—document swatches don’t have any connection to the .acb files used to create them. I made this file on a computer with the newest Pantone .acb file installed and opened it on a computer with the old CS6 .acb files, and there’s no problem with the swatch that’s not in the installed PANTONE + Solid library—PANTONE 3514 C is not included in my .acb libraries:

Also, when Pantone was selling the Pantome Color Manger app they explicitly stated on their site that swatches and.acb files could be shared without restrictions:

https://www.pantone.com/customer-service/help/?t=Sharing-Libraries-from-PANTONE-Color-Manager-with-Workgroup

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rachelk10752544

New Participant

I wonder how this effects the rest of the community that prevously has the pantone books and the ase files from our previous purchase and downloads.We have 4 instances of Adobe CS5 with all of our Pantone Plus catalog with our stack of swatch books. I'm the only one currently running CC 2022, and I have the ability to load up the ase file on it's own, curious if they will lock down that abillity also.

chrisg11235813

Participating Frequently

you can still any colour book you have access to, they just wont come preloaded with Adobe software. Basically you just won't have the any "new" colours. Which is really only hurting Pantone's bottom line. Customers wont ask for new inks, because they are not in their Adobe colour book libraries. Print providers wont order the inks because clients won't request them. I guess its a "win-win" for everyone ?!

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Eugene Tyson

Community Expert

Where the palletes won't ship with Adobe any longer, you will not lose the swatch in your files.

If you've used Pantone Swatches in previous files then you can still access those to load into other files etc.

It's just if you want new swatches or a swatch you haven't used before, you'll need to ay the 60 quid a year.

Hopefully, Adobe can hash out a deal with Pantone to keep including them.

Even as an optional payment (works out at 0.16 cents per day or 5 dollars a month)

I don't think it's a huge problem. If you need them - then subscribe to Pantone connect and increase your price ever so slightly to cover the cost.

chrisg11235813

Participating Frequently

Can Adobe just make us an .ai file with all of the swatches contained in a file, that we could download?

It's not like you are supplying us with a colour book. just a file that happens to have all of the swatches contained within it.

I know its probably a legal grey-area.

Bevi Chagnon - PubCom.com

Brainiac

I know its probably a legal grey-area.
By @chrisg11235813

Oh, I don't think it's a legal grey area.

It's a legal 100% K area that would trigger patent, trademark, and copyright infringement lawsuits.

If you still use PANTONE swatches, then the $60/year payment to PANTONE is a cheap way to be continually up to date with the latest colors.

Personally, I have not used a PANTONE color or my now-aging swatch books for close to 20 years. When I print, it's in CMYK for critical color and I use a formal CMYK tint book for better colors than what PANTONE supplies. Cheap on-demand printing is usually RGB and as long as the color come out reasonably close to what I want, I'm happy.

Now, if I was still doing print advertising and magazines, then yes, I'd cough up the bucks and continue with the PANTONE guides.

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chrisg11235813

Participating Frequently

Fair point. I was being a bit facitious, lol. I am actually quite frustrated with this turn of events. When a client supplies a file with pantone swatches, they are automatically in the swatch pallet of that file. It is not illegal to use that file to print with, I'm not even sure if it is illegal to have a swatch with "PANTONE" in the spot colour name. It is a little like supplying a font with working files. It is ok to use for that project -- but not to share with other projects. Pantones are how we know what colour the client is actually looking for. We both have a standardized reference so we can agree on what red is the correct red. Now a colour book that is searchable... probably illegal ... that is just nonsense!! -- well I hope some competing company has the ware-with-all to fill this void of a colour standard.

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