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Changing type 1 fonts to Opentype

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August 15, 2021
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I have activated fonts on CC for the ones in my documents that are Type 1. How do I change the Type 1's, it does not seem to be done autmatically since a listing from the PDF shows that that they are still Type 1.

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Fonts are often converted to type 1 when a PDF is made. This is normal and will still work. You CANNOT use a PDF to find whether your installed fonts are type 1...

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Paul Kearns

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I have lots of old rohects clients reuse - and now I'll have to redo them all becuase of this change - and hope the hours spent kerning and leading for specific projects "just work" Something is wrong here....

rob day

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You might look at Font Lab’s TransType

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/ende-der-unterst%C3%BCtzung-f%C3%BCr-ps-type-1-fonts/td-p/11874314

Bevi Chagnon - PubCom.com

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@rob day

Do you know how well Font Lab converts to Unicode?

We've heard of some problems with mapping to the correct Unicode codepoint for some glyphs. Of course, this affects accessibility and all machine reading of the text.

And are the original PS font's kerning pairs inherited into the new OpenType version?

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Fonts are often converted to type 1 when a PDF is made. This is normal and will still work. You CANNOT use a PDF to find whether your installed fonts are type 1...

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Gunnel1Author

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Thanks much, I didn't know that. One wonders: if Type 1 is so old and rusty, why does PDF still conert to them (secretly 🙂 )

Peter Spier

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PDF is now an international standard, not just an Adobe proprietary format, so there are lots of legacy requirements, and the OTF format is really, as I understand things, a wrapper for either underlying True-Type or Type1 format fonts.

Peter Spier

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If you mean you now have both T1 and OTF versions of the font and want to use the OTF version, go to Type > Find Font and change them there.

Acrobat will continu to show postscript flavored OTF fonts as Type 1 in the font properties, butif the font name is correct (presumably Std or Pro), the the correct font is being used.

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Gunnel1Author

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Yes, I meant that. But it seems that when I activated CC fonts, the Type 1 ones disappeared from the Find Font dialog. I assume this means that the occurences of Type 1's were replaced automatically?

Peter Spier

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Fonts are never replaced automatically in InDesign (unlike some other apps which will make substitutions without even telling you).

Willi Adelberger

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There are specific programs which can do that, but often it is not covered by the license agreement and often it might change the font.

But OTF can contain up to 65.000 glyphs, T1 only 255, so it is worthy to license new OTF.

biowizard

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I don't need 65,000 glyphs in (say) Cloister Black, Sonata or Cheq! I just need to be open existing documents for editing or adaptation, and my original set of 200-plus glyphs will be all I need! Mediaeval Monks didn't write in Unicode, and last time I checked, most Classical Music uses only a few Scores of Shapes and Symbols, while a Chess Set only contains 6 Types of Piece, in one of two colours, each of which may be on one of two colours of Square. 🙂

biowizard

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Well, it's called progress and sometimes the price is inconvenience for some people. While I understand the situation you're in (I'm old time CorelDRAW user myself), I'd say keep an old machine lying around for those old projects, update the smaller more active ones with Opentype and move forward.

I'm going out on a limb here based on your post that you're a Windows user. That gives you a leg up in this case because Microsoft is far more careful about maintaining backward compatibility. There are some people still running Pagemaker on Windows 11.

That said, nobody including Microsoft or Apple is going to support Type 1 soon. That font format is archaic and as I already pointed out has been for decades. I stopped using them about 15 years ago.

While I agree that Creative Cloud has not fullfilled all of its promises, especially for InDesign users, the Photoshop/Lightroom plan is a no-brainer. The extras alone are worth the cost which hasn't been raised since it was introduced more than 10 years ago.

BobLevine, mostly what you say, I agree with totally. But then there's this "progress" cult, which believes not just that things should get better (of course, why not?!) - but also (and this is the rub) that old, perfectly good technologies, that cost nothing to continue supporting, have to be dumped.

It's like saying, the latest pop and rock music is so great, let's dump Bach and Mozart. We love modern virtual synths, so lets not make any more acoustic pianos or electric guitars.

Simply, there's space for old, working solutions, alongside newer, "better" ones.

And yes, I am thoroughly enjoying my Photoshop/Lightroom "Photographer" subscription, but I ain't gonna be dumping Photoshop CS6, Photoshop 7, and even Photoshop 4, anytime soon! 🙂

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