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Ctrl S doesn't save my document anymore, it 'saves as'

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November 3, 2020
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Hi everyone,

I don't know if this is due to an update or what, but for the past week or so when I press Ctrl S after opening and editing a document, it opens a dialog box to save my document as. Usually not in the same location as where the original document was as well, so I have to navigate back to where I opened it in the first place. Any idea why it does that and how to correct it?

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Correct answer Dov Isaacs

This is absolutely not a bug.

In fact, this is exactly the same behaviour exhibited by every new version of InDesign when you open an InDesign document that was not yet opened and saved by the new version.

Why does this happen? InDesign does this out of an abundance of caution.

The InDesign document format changes from one major InDesign version to the next (such as from InDesign 15 to InDesign 16). Once you “save” an InDesign document in the newer version, it won't directly open in the older version. As such, InDesign treats such documents as previously unsaved such that you don't by mistake overwrite a document from the previous release, giving you the opportunity to rename the file from the previous release or give a new name to the document of the new release.

Subsequent save operations on such documents work as expected.

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kaufmanj1973

Known Participant

It most definitely is a bug. I experience this on a daily basis - EVEN WHEN THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY InDESIGN UPDATES, as asserted by others in this discussion. I can open a file that I previously created this morning and closed, come back work on it a bit, then click "Save" and it acts as "Save As..." even though there are no Adobe application updates, major or incremental. If it were a case of a change in file formats, then wouldn't Illustrator and Photoshop also exhibit this behavior? They do not.

rob day

Community Expert

There is a problem for certain users, which isn’t related to the normal Converted behaviour. See this long running thread—Adobe clearly is having problems identifying the cause:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/indesign-2023-makes-a-read-only-file/td-p/13300763/page/9

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kaufmanj1973

Known Participant

No, that link describes an entirely different problem. I have zero issues saving the file as the exact same filename, so it clearly isn't being marked read-only. But what's the point of having a "Save" option on the menu when it just automatically goes to "Save As" dialog anyway?

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LAWRENCE5FC9

Participant

Thanks, this works. Was driving me crazy too.

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Laubender

Community Expert

The fix will be issued soon:

https://indesign.uservoice.com/forums/601180-adobe-indesign-bugs/suggestions/41695588-indesign-16-0-saves-converted-files-in-last-used-f

Ravi Kiran (Senior Lead Quality Engineer, Adobe InDesign) responded · Nov 17, 2020:
"The fix for this issue is now available in the latest Beta build (build 109) of InDesign 16.0 available via CCD.
We’re planning to make the fix available via a Public release very shortly. Please stay tuned for the announcement."

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

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Manan Joshi

Community Expert

As per the latest update posted on the bug filed for this issue, it is fixed and is available in the latest update of InDesign i.e. 16.0.1. Update your InDesign and give it a spin(i think the updates are rolled out incrementally, so not all people would see the update right away).

-Manan

Dov IsaacsCorrect answer

Legend

This is absolutely not a bug.

In fact, this is exactly the same behaviour exhibited by every new version of InDesign when you open an InDesign document that was not yet opened and saved by the new version.

Why does this happen? InDesign does this out of an abundance of caution.

The InDesign document format changes from one major InDesign version to the next (such as from InDesign 15 to InDesign 16). Once you “save” an InDesign document in the newer version, it won't directly open in the older version. As such, InDesign treats such documents as previously unsaved such that you don't by mistake overwrite a document from the previous release, giving you the opportunity to rename the file from the previous release or give a new name to the document of the new release.

Subsequent save operations on such documents work as expected.

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)

rob day

Community Expert

Hi Dov, I’m not sure, but I think the complaint is the Save As dialog’s initial directory, and not the enforcment of Save As. I haven’t upgraded yet, but with 2020 and earlier, the intial directory is always the converted document’s parent folder, and not the last folder used. That would be a pain if you did not want to move older documents to a new folder. See the reports in Uwe’s link.

Dov Isaacs

Legend

If it is not offering to save it in the same directory, yes, I would agree that it is unexpected behaviour. So far, all my “converted” InDesign documents have had dialog boxes targetting the original directory of the previous version document. But that may have to do with my doing significant work in that particular directory prior to that save operation.

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)