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WRWatkins
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July 10, 2017
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CYMK 0%

  • July 10, 2017
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Hello all,

I've been going around in circles about this and I'm not quite sure what to do.

I'm designing a book cover for IngramSpark, and they require for the files to be exported in CYMK, and PDF/X-1a: 2001. However, each time I do export it, I get a blank file, which lately caused the file to being rejected.

Looking at the Separation preview, all the CYMK colours for all the items (cover art and text) on the cover are at 0%, which I believe is the cause of the problem. Can I change the colours individually? Is there a way to do this and how?!

Thank you so much for any help and advice you can provide.

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rob day
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 10, 2017

Looking at the Separation preview, all the CYMK colours for all the items (cover art and text) on the cover are at 0%, which I believe is the cause of the problem. Can I change the colours individually? Is there a way to do this and how?!

That would only happen if the used colors were spot color, in that case the spot colors would be listed along with the CMYK process colors.

Can you show a screen capture of the Separation panel sampling along with the cover?

WRWatkins
WRWatkinsAuthor
Participant
July 10, 2017

Dov Isaacs
Legend
July 10, 2017

Your screen shot shoots down the theory of spot color use.

All we see on the page is a bar code. Can we assume there is additional content that just isn't showing on the screen when the Separations Preview is on? If Separations Preview is off, do you see other content?

As I indicated earlier, I think we need to see the actual file in order to further assist you.

          - Dov

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
Dov Isaacs
Legend
July 10, 2017

Are you using spot colors for the artwork?

You might better be able to assist us in assisting you if you could post a packaging of the file in question. Otherwise, it would be virtually impossible for us to determine what is going on since there isn't any known generic problem exporting InDesign documents to PDF/X-1a (although, quite frankly, that is a nice but very technically obsolete late 20th century PDF/X standard).

          - Dov

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
rob day
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 10, 2017

although, quite frankly, that is a nice but very technically obsolete late 20th century PDF/X standard

At 2.3B in revenue, Ingram Group would be one of the largest printers in the country—there must be a reason for the X-1a requirement.

Dov Isaacs
Legend
July 10, 2017

https://forums.adobe.com/people/rob+day  wrote

although, quite frankly, that is a nice but very technically obsolete late 20th century PDF/X standard

At 2.3B in revenue, Ingram Group would be one of the largest printers in the country—there must be a reason for the X-1a requirement.

I actually interface with a number of print companies and print associations (both in North America and internationally) on behalf of Adobe.

There are printers who clearly understand modern PDF print publishing workflows and actually prefer PDF/X-4. We recommend you seek out such printers.

Many of the printers who claim they “require” PDF/X-1a actually will gladly take PDF/X-4 if they think you know what you are doing.

Other printers have told me straight out that they want PDF/X-1a with CMYK as handed down from Mt. Sinai and flattened transparency (and perhaps outlined text) because if something goes wrong, they want to blame the customer!  Hmmm, blame the customer when so many printer companies are experiencing continually shrinking revenues and going out of business? Great business strategy! They certainly aren't “print service providers.” It should be noted that many if not most of these “we only want CMYK” printers don't even specify which CMYK profile to convert RGB to — it certainly does make a hell of difference!

And then there are printers who simply are totally ignorant of color management entirely and are stuck in the 1980s and 1990s.

          - Dov

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
Derek Cross
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 10, 2017

It may help if you can specify the version of InDesign and OS.

WRWatkins
WRWatkinsAuthor
Participant
July 10, 2017

The absolute latest version of Indesign (CC) and Windows 10