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Disable Accents for Uppercase Text

Contributor ,
Oct 24, 2017 Oct 24, 2017

In Design I have this text   

NÁUŠNICE Its written in lowercase so I can of course toggle the All Caps button.

When you write in Caps there is no need to show the accents (at least this is what i remember from my Spanish lessons). Not is there a way to toggle the accents off?

Matt

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Mentor ,
Oct 24, 2017 Oct 24, 2017

I'm not aware of a way to 'toggle' it, however, it's possible to find/change such accented chars to their 'basic' version. Unfortunately, one-by-one only. Here's the codes for all 1) A and 2) E incarnations (formatted as All Caps):

accents-a.png

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Community Expert ,
Oct 24, 2017 Oct 24, 2017

Hi,

Is it the same issue when you use the menu Type > Change Case

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Mentor ,
Oct 24, 2017 Oct 24, 2017

Nope, that's different. GREP I posted above will ignore this.

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Contributor ,
Oct 24, 2017 Oct 24, 2017

Thanks for that, thats useful, Its just a title I am working on, so was just looking for away to keep the accents in case they change their minds to keep or not keep theem.

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Contributor ,
Oct 24, 2017 Oct 24, 2017

Are you sure it is Spanish?

"NÁUŠNICE" ("earrings" in english, "pendientes" in spanish)

Look like Czech or Slovak, not Spanish. In this case, DO NOT remove accents.

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Mentor ,
Oct 24, 2017 Oct 24, 2017

Good point! Indeed, it sounds definitely Slavic.

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Contributor ,
Oct 24, 2017 Oct 24, 2017

No not Spanish Czech and Slovak. So in these languages KEEP the accents on Caps?

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Contributor ,
Oct 24, 2017 Oct 24, 2017

Yes, keep them.

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Mentor ,
Oct 24, 2017 Oct 24, 2017

FWIW, Microsoft thinks it's Czech

earrings.png

UPDATE: seems like in Slovak it is exactly the same...

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Community Expert ,
Oct 24, 2017 Oct 24, 2017

The habits of leaving/removing accents depend on the language, although you better be careful not to apply the Spanish rules you know to that Czech name!

In French, for example, accents are preserved: ÉCOLE. Dutch does the same, because otherwise words may become homonymous (ZOËVEN 'just now' vs. ZOEVEN 'travel very fast').

For other languages this may differ, however.

Interestingly enough, there seems to be no software support at all for removing accents! Perhaps it's not common enough.

This would be possible to script, but it'd have a huge disadvantage: you cannot run it "again" to get your original accents back!

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Community Expert ,
Oct 24, 2017 Oct 24, 2017
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> you cannot run it "again" to get your original accents back!

You can, actually. Create two conditions, 'with accents' and 'without accents'. Look for words in accented capitals, add the condition 'with accents'. Add the de-accented word immediately after it and apply the 'without accents' condition. Now you can use the conditions to toggle between wit/without accents.

P.

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