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Chris  P.  Bacon
Inspiring
September 3, 2022
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Disappearing lines

  • September 3, 2022
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When I made the letter marked with green a drop cap (applied both character style and paragraph style, the drop cap height being defined in the paragraph style, and the drop cap font, and tracking in the character style) the bottom 2 rows in the last column of the second page disappeared.

If rows disappear as a result of changes that I make in the spread, they always disappear at the bottom.

Sometimes changing he position of my pull quotes vertically "resets" the copy text and the disappeared lines come back, but often they don't.

I have a somewhat unusual setup that have been quite disapproved of in the community, it is described in this thread:

Solved: Re: How to draw everything on baseline grid withou... - Page 3 - Adobe Support Community - 13143244

But, after re-reading my tweaks in the read, I realized that in terms of alignment issues I did not solve anything, the only thing I achieved is to draw more precisely on the document grid.

However my setup now forces me for some reason into an odd lines logic.

Some elements need to be moved vertically up and down (image captions and pull quotes) in order to get the offsets right and even.

For example, the caption of the bottom left image had to be moved to the top of the image because at the bottom it's impossible to get the same offsets like at the other image caption because the text is aligned to baseline grid.

There is overset text (marked with green) so the 2 lines shouldn't have disappeared. (This happens often with layout change.)

Is there anything weird with my setup? (not sure is everything necessary to determine this is visible on the screenshot below):

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Correct answer Laubender

@Chris P. Bacon said:

"That is not causing the disappearing lines."

 

Not true. Indeed it is. You have set the Keep Options to "Keep with Next: 3 lines".

Go back to default that is "Keep with Next: 0 lines".

 

Look into this sample where the left sample is done with 0 lines and the right sample is done with 3 lines:

 

FWIW: That you turned off the option "Keep with Previous" has nothing to do with "Keep with Next".

Two different options. Turning off "Keep with Previous" does not turn off "Keep with Next".

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Professional )

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Peter Spier
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 3, 2022

It looks to me like you are still wasting time trying to copy fit dummy text, and that you have a keep option applied in your paragraph style that requires at least two lines to remain together at the end of the paragraph, which is waht forces the last two lines to move to the next column (your overset).

Chris  P.  Bacon
Inspiring
September 4, 2022

I don't have keep options enabled for my copy (paragraph style):

That is not causing the disappearing lines.

 

 

LaubenderCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
September 4, 2022

@Chris P. Bacon said:

"That is not causing the disappearing lines."

 

Not true. Indeed it is. You have set the Keep Options to "Keep with Next: 3 lines".

Go back to default that is "Keep with Next: 0 lines".

 

Look into this sample where the left sample is done with 0 lines and the right sample is done with 3 lines:

 

FWIW: That you turned off the option "Keep with Previous" has nothing to do with "Keep with Next".

Two different options. Turning off "Keep with Previous" does not turn off "Keep with Next".

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Professional )

Chris  P.  Bacon
Inspiring
September 3, 2022

Update: if I start typing to fill the empty 2 rows, they fill be filled. But the end of those 2 rows after the disappearance is not the end of the text, because there is overset text. 

I just thought someone encountered "disappearing lines" previously, and knows what causes them.

Thanks in advance.

Chris  P.  Bacon
Inspiring
September 3, 2022

This might disorientate me when typing in InCopy? I don't know.

Chris  P.  Bacon
Inspiring
September 3, 2022

the red lines are the baselines