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helene95001619
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October 3, 2018
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Endnotes convert to < ? > when copied

  • October 3, 2018
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Hello.
I am currently working on a publication with many endnotes. (I linked the word file via wordsflow, everything is fine, the endnotes come at the end.)
BUT: the publication is split into different subchapters, with a word file each. We want to keep the word fils per subchapter. But in the printed publication, the endnotes should come all together at the end as „Sources“, and if ever possible, in one followed text box. So I thought of copying them carefully from the subchapter’s page to the sources chapter. By copying happens this weird thing that all the numbers get lost and replaced by < ? >.

Is there a solution for my problem? Thank you very much for your help.
LN

System: Mac OS X 10.13.6, Adobe InDesign CC 2018 13.1, WordsFlow 13.2.11.1 (Mar 20 2018)

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Correct answer Laubender

Hi Uwe

First of all: please excuse my remaining silent all this time, I had some health issues.

So: Thank you very much for your answers. Unfortunately, there is

1) neither the possibility of putting all chapters into one single document (client’s work flow + very havy data)

2) the endnotes have to remain editable because we want to re-export a word file at the end of the publication’s production for further use

3) well yes, that’s what I will do.

Anyway, thank you again for your investigations into my issues!

Best

Helen


Hi Helen,

FWIW: You may already noticed this, there is news with Endnotes and Footnotes in InDesign CC 2019:

One can import endnotes as Static Endnotes now.

One is able to convert endnotes to footnotes and one could convert footnotes to endnotes.

Footnotes in table cells are supported.

But hold your breath and test CC 2019 before doing any production work.

You will perhaps wait until a bug fix is out. Or you could test the latest bug fix at prerelease:

Adobe Prerelease

Regards,
Uwe

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LaubenderCommunity Expert
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October 3, 2018

Hi Helene,

can you tell the numbering scheme of your endnotes in more detail?

And also a bit more about your organizing subchapters and chapters with stories and documents?

What do you exactly mean by subchapters? Are there chapters subdivided by subchapters?

And all the chapters are in one single InDesign document? And all subchapters are single stories?

FWIW: Do not copy/paste or duplicate text frames with endnote texts, but move them around in your document if you want to change position.

Regards,
Uwe

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helene95001619Author
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October 4, 2018

Hi Uwe

The publication's scheme will run like this:

Chapter (Teaching / Arcadian Dreams / Territory …)

Each chapter has endnotes (numbered 1,2,3…) and lists sources of images ( [fig.1], [fig.2], etc.)

Each chapter starts anew with the numbers.

Each chapter comes from a separate word file.

And every chapter has its own Indesign file.

At the end of the publication, there is a common page where all the endnotes and sources come together.

Of course, I would like to have them in one text box running through the columns, one chapter following directly the previous.

Note: We talk about subchapters with the client, but I realized that on the common sources' page, the subchapters are treated equally as chapters, so technically we only have chapters.

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LaubenderCommunity Expert
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October 5, 2018

Hi,

"every chapter has its own InDesign file" is the main cause that your workflow with endnotes will not work the way you want.

I think, you have two or three choices:

1. Put all your chapters into one single document.

Set the scope for endnotes in the endnotes preferences to Story.

Move, do not copy or duplicate the endnotes text frames to the end of the document. Do not try to thread one endnote text frame of one story to the endnote text frame of another story.

2. Work with static endnotes only.

Endnotes that are converted to simple text.

Peter Kahrel has some scripts for conversion.

Maybe investigate the next version of InDesign as well.

3. Copy/Paste as you do right now and change all the resulting < ? > to static numbers.

Regards,
Uwe

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